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Arlo · 08-10-21, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Could this be the reason to why some fully vaccinated get infected despite the protection they got ?

And suffer fewer debilitating or deadly effects of such. Covid is mutating rapidly (and possibly due to the portion of the public refusing readily available vaccines). Basically, it's better to have some protection than none at all.

From the (evil and not to be trusted) CDC:

"Studies show that COVID-19 vaccines are effective at keeping you from getting COVID-19. Getting a COVID-19 vaccine will also help keep you from getting seriously ill even if you do get COVID-19. Learn more about the benefits of getting vaccinated.

COVID-19 vaccines teach our immune systems how to recognize and fight the virus that causes COVID-19. It typically takes 2 weeks after vaccination for the body to build protection (immunity) against the virus that causes COVID-19. That means it is possible a person could still get COVID-19 before or just after vaccination and then get sick because the vaccine did not have enough time to build protection. People are considered fully vaccinated 2 weeks after their second dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna COVID-19 vaccines, or 2 weeks after the single-dose Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen COVID-19 vaccine.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...M:gen:PTN:FY21

AVGWarhawk · 08-10-21, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Could this be the reason to why some fully vaccinated get infected despite the protection they got ?

Markus

The vaccine was never offered as total "immunity" to the virus. It offered getting well faster with less affect to the host.

AVGWarhawk · 08-10-21, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlo

And suffer fewer debilitating or deadly effects of such. Covid is mutating rapidly (and possibly due to the portion of the public refusing readily available vaccines). Basically, it's better to have some protection than none at all.

From the (evil and not to be trusted) CDC:

"Studies show that COVID-19 vaccines are effective at keeping you from getting COVID-19. Getting a COVID-19 vaccine will also help keep you from getting seriously ill even if you do get COVID-19. Learn more about the benefits of getting vaccinated.

COVID-19 vaccines teach our immune systems how to recognize and fight the virus that causes COVID-19. It typically takes 2 weeks after vaccination for the body to build protection (immunity) against the virus that causes COVID-19. That means it is possible a person could still get COVID-19 before or just after vaccination and then get sick because the vaccine did not have enough time to build protection. People are considered fully vaccinated 2 weeks after their second dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna COVID-19 vaccines, or 2 weeks after the single-dose Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen COVID-19 vaccine.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...M:gen:PTN:FY21

Something that should not have been fed to the public at large.

Arlo · 08-10-21, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Something that should not have been fed to the public at large.

Why?

AVGWarhawk · 08-10-21, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlo

Why?

The highlighted enlarged sentence in your post. The vaccine does not keep a person from getting the virus. It is not immunity in the absolute. The vaccinated can still contract the virus, suffer no effect, carry the virus or minimal affect(quicker recovery). It should not have been advertised as keeping one from getting the virus.

Jimbuna · 08-10-21, 01:00 PM

Jimbuna · 08-10-21, 01:02 PM

Rockstar · 08-10-21, 03:02 PM

Coworker update.

Spoke with him today as he is back to work he said he lives in a large apartment with four other persons. He and one other were vaccinated the other three were not. Though no one is sure who brought the cooties home and infected the others, all tested positive for COVID.

They were asked to quarantine for three days, all complied, all are asymptomatic and have resumed their normal daily routine.

I know it must suck for some here because none of the unvaccinated had died. But hey life goes on with or without those COVID Karens. Truly amazing organism that human body.

Catfish · 08-10-21, 03:34 PM

https://healthfeedback.org/claimrevi...e-tomi-lahren/

Rockstar · 08-10-21, 03:37 PM

You are more likely to die from heart attack, stroke, starvation, AIDS, or be murdered in Chicago than dying from COVID.

Catfish · 08-10-21, 03:39 PM

https://apnews.com/article/coronavir...6e7354f5d5e187

mapuc · 08-10-21, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

You are more likely to die from heart attack, stroke, starvation, AIDS, or get murdered in Chicago than dying from COVID.

Maybe not but you can infect others who may die from it or get some longterm disease.

It's ok not to take the jab, but this doesn't mean you should act disrespectful.

Markus

Jeff-Groves · 08-10-21, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

or be murdered in Chicago than dying from COVID.

Depends on how you present yourself in Chicago.
And that is a real World picture of me and how I travel now days.
I've also upgraded with inserts to handle 45 ACP rounds at point blank range.
Yeah. It would hurt like hell and maybe break ribs but I'd walk away!

3catcircus · 08-10-21, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Maybe not but you can infect others who may die from it or get some longterm disease.

It's ok not to take the jab, but this doesn't mean you should act disrespectful.

Markus

The same can be said for the flu or a common cold. The frail and immunocompromised catch colds and flu that results in pneumonia and subsequent death *all the time*, we've just never paid attention to it - and no one really tried to determine the actual number of flu deaths each year (it's a huge number) because non-communicable pneumonia as a cause of death means the reporting burden is less. My mother caught a head cold in her 70s. It moved to her chest. She had COPD and that chest cold turned into pneumonia. 10 days on a ventilator. Upon removal from the vent, died with 4 hours. Should we make every person who catches the flu or a cold go into quarantine? Should we forcibly vaccinate every person for flu?

Or to put it another way, are we allowed to be "normal sick" or is everything COVID now?

Arlo · 08-10-21, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Depends on how you present yourself in Chicago.
And that is a real World picture of me and how I travel now days.
I've also upgraded with inserts to handle 45 ACP rounds at point blank range.
Yeah. It would hurt like hell and maybe break ribs but I'd walk away!

If you're that scared of living there you'd be better off moving (it'd be less expensive, as well).

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Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,833 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Coworker update. Spoke with him today as he is back to work he said he lives in a large apartment with four other persons. He and one other were vaccinated the other three were not. Though no one is sure who brought the cooties home and infected the others, all tested positive for COVID. They were asked to quarantine for three days, all complied, all are asymptomatic and have resumed their normal daily routine. I know it must suck for some here because none of the unvaccinated had died. But hey life goes on with or without those COVID Karens. Truly amazing organism that human body. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time. Last edited by Rockstar; 08-10-21 at 03:37 PM.

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Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,833 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	You are more likely to die from heart attack, stroke, starvation, AIDS, or be murdered in Chicago than dying from COVID. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.

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