No Ship Contacts In Aleutians

cdrsubron7 · 04-27-07, 12:17 AM

I've been working on a mission that takes place in the Aleutians and have not seen one Japanese ship generated by the game engine. Are there any limitations as to where the game engine generates the ships in SHIV? Almost everywhere else when I slap a submarine in the water and go into the game to see how it works, I'll see ships contacts being generated on the map. Not so, around Attu and Kiska Islands. Sofar the only ships I've seen are the ones I manually place in the mission I'm creating. Anyone got any info on something like this?

cdrsubron7

sergbuto · 04-27-07, 02:00 AM

You can easily see all the ship traffic areas when you open campaign files in the mission editor. That's where from the game generates ships.

cdrsubron7 · 04-27-07, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sergbuto

You can easily see all the ship traffic areas when you open campaign files in the mission editor. That's where from the game generates ships.

Thanks for taking the time to answer my question, sergbuto. I've just the last few minutes looking through the Campaign Files and there doesn't seem to be anything for the Aleutians. But from the look off things you could actually add a campaign file to do this correct? Is this possible?

cdrsubron7 :hmm:

tater · 04-27-07, 09:26 AM

They grouped ships by year, and by the type of group. 1-2 merchant traffic, convoys, TFs, sub hunter groups, etc.

So for the year (half year in the 42a vs 42b type cases) you open they type you wanyt (these need to be opened as RANDOM layers, BTW) and look at what's inside. You can right click to add a new random group, at which point you'll get a menue to populat the group with ships along with % chance for each ship to happen, etc. Make waypoints to Attu or wherever, and there you go.

tater

cdrsubron7 · 04-27-07, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tater

They grouped ships by year, and by the type of group. 1-2 merchant traffic, convoys, TFs, sub hunter groups, etc.

So for the year (half year in the 42a vs 42b type cases) you open they type you wanyt (these need to be opened as RANDOM layers, BTW) and look at what's inside. You can right click to add a new random group, at which point you'll get a menue to populat the group with ships along with % chance for each ship to happen, etc. Make waypoints to Attu or wherever, and there you go.

tater

Thanks tater for your help. You make it sound so easy, but I've only been playing around the ME for about a week and a half. I haven't fully got the ME totally understood yet. I'm understanding pretty much everthing you mentioned, but the random layer. What are they, so forth and so on?

cdrsubron7 :hmm:

tater · 04-27-07, 11:39 PM

Most of the files in the campaign layers (Data/Campaigns/Campaign) are "random layers." That means you should launch the editor and "Open Rnd Layer" then select one. They are the guys with names like:

41a_Jap_Convoys.mis
41a_Jap_SubHunters.mis

The missions with "BattleofXXXX" are "scripted" layers.

Anyway, if you open them up and save them the wrong way, wierd things happen. I saved Campaign_LOC.mis the wrong way and made it disappear, lol. If you are unsure, do what I did, make a copy of the entire Campaign folder someplace safe

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Anyway, you can right click on the random groups (yellow with a ? on them) and select group properties for stuff liek speed, chance of occurence, etc. Alternately, you can select "Define Group Contents" which will give you the ability to edit what kinds of ships are in that group, their skill level, cargo type, etc.

If you right click in the middle of no place, you can add a new random group. To add traffic someplace that's what you'd do.

04-27-07, 12:17 AM	#1
cdrsubron7 Sink'em All Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 2,150 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 1	No Ship Contacts In Aleutians I've been working on a mission that takes place in the Aleutians and have not seen one Japanese ship generated by the game engine. Are there any limitations as to where the game engine generates the ships in SHIV? Almost everywhere else when I slap a submarine in the water and go into the game to see how it works, I'll see ships contacts being generated on the map. Not so, around Attu and Kiska Islands. Sofar the only ships I've seen are the ones I manually place in the mission I'm creating. Anyone got any info on something like this? cdrsubron7 __________________ Head Deep and Keep'em Astern" - LtCDR Samuel D Dealy SHIV Guide \| Imperial Japanese Navy \| US Submarines

04-27-07, 02:00 AM	#2
sergbuto Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,331 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	You can easily see all the ship traffic areas when you open campaign files in the mission editor. That's where from the game generates ships. __________________ Serg's SH4 and SH3 pages

04-27-07, 09:26 AM	#4
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	They grouped ships by year, and by the type of group. 1-2 merchant traffic, convoys, TFs, sub hunter groups, etc. So for the year (half year in the 42a vs 42b type cases) you open they type you wanyt (these need to be opened as RANDOM layers, BTW) and look at what's inside. You can right click to add a new random group, at which point you'll get a menue to populat the group with ships along with % chance for each ship to happen, etc. Make waypoints to Attu or wherever, and there you go. tater

04-27-07, 11:39 PM	#6
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Most of the files in the campaign layers (Data/Campaigns/Campaign) are "random layers." That means you should launch the editor and "Open Rnd Layer" then select one. They are the guys with names like: 41a_Jap_Convoys.mis 41a_Jap_SubHunters.mis The missions with "BattleofXXXX" are "scripted" layers. Anyway, if you open them up and save them the wrong way, wierd things happen. I saved Campaign_LOC.mis the wrong way and made it disappear, lol. If you are unsure, do what I did, make a copy of the entire Campaign folder someplace safe . Anyway, you can right click on the random groups (yellow with a ? on them) and select group properties for stuff liek speed, chance of occurence, etc. Alternately, you can select "Define Group Contents" which will give you the ability to edit what kinds of ships are in that group, their skill level, cargo type, etc. If you right click in the middle of no place, you can add a new random group. To add traffic someplace that's what you'd do.