The Revelation of Greta: no heavens behind the heavens

[ikalugin]

Considering how the modern western middle class (especially on the internet) revolves around virtue (and virtue signalling) it is not surprising that they would support an extremist (due to her psycological condition she sees the world as black and white) child fighting the original sin (that noone can atone for fully) of man made global warming.

[JU_88]

Greta is 16, she like most 16 year old knows very little, she is just a tool or poster child. (literally)

The trouble is while I do care about environmental causes, I'm not so prepared to back activism like extinction rebellion and green new deal, when it quickly becomes apparent they have laced their environmental demands with many other unrelated political demands -usually related to 'social justice' some of it copy and pasted straight out of the communist manifesto.

its then quickly clear that the welfare of the planet is only half of what motivates them. the other half being, they just want power, and environmental activism is the tool in which to get it .

Its a shame, If it was sincerely about the environment, id support them. but that's not the entirety of what I'm being sold. Most of those who support these activist groups around the world are genuinely good/concerned people who maybe didn't read the small print.

Same with any political movement i guess, while the intentions of most are 'good' in some perceived way. Those leading the charge almost always have ulterior motives and some less palatable ideas on the back burner.
And what easier way for an extremist to climb the ladder than to hijack or leach off other popular pre-existing groups.

[Skybird]

All true, and I add to it this: any environment protection claim I cannot take serious anymore if no attention at all gets paid to where most of it takes place, and how isnaenly high the population level of mankind on this planet is. China emissions are higher than that of the uS and Europe together, and tiny Germany plans to flagellate itself to compensate? India openly threatens to boycott any climate protection efforts if the West resists to its blackmail for getting billions and billiosn transferred?

Its about destroying the buregoise society model, and to destroy market economy and capitalism, the latter notoriouly confused with monopolism.

What it should be about, is how to adapt to life in a warmer world. becasue we cnanot prevent the globe from heating up anymore. We stupidly and headlessly waste our finajcial ressourvces for a battle already lost, and then will lack these ressources when it is about adapting to the new world global wamring is creatign right now, all around us, everywhere.

Hysterical actionism. Collective brainwashing. Creating a new, a socialist man. Parasitism, at both directions. Thats what its all about.



Children in the streets? For them its a Riesengaudi. And they arwe tolerated to not attend school lessons, what child does not like that? What child says no to soft drinks, sweets and fast food? Some of the child "leaders" will enter politics as soon as they have left school. No need for them to learn a job or profession anymore. The crowd is applauding the tics of tomorrow here.

[JU_88]

Its about destroying the bourgeois up to a point, they want to tear down the mega rich and upper classes a peg or three, and redistribute their wealth and resources to the marginalized and down trodden.

but - not so much tear down the middle classes, because that means most of them - they are rather bourgeois themselves in the eyes of the working class, who tend to support capitalism and meritocracy despite being on a lower rung.

Because of this we have middle class who simultaneously punches both up and down, but they either cannot recognize it when they do the latter. or They justify it by shifting the focus on to someone even lower down, such as a refugee or another marginalized group they want to protect/uplift.

So we get the curious situation where white collars, Academics and journalists can now tell manual laborers and blue collars to 'check their privilege'. (and my god - its getting old)
This works in metropolitan / diverse cities, but it alienates the more homogeneous towns and rural areas. because there, you have a very different demographic at the bottom of the pile.

As soon as the left introduced Intersectionality, they abandoned those people, and the right was quick to scoop them up. And where else could they go?

[Jimbuna]

^On that we can both most definitely agree

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Children in the streets? For them its a Riesengaudi. And they arwe tolerated to not attend school lessons, what child does not like that? What child says no to soft drinks, sweets and fast food? Some of the child "leaders" will enter politics as soon as they have left school. No need for them to learn a job or profession anymore. The crowd is applauding the tics of tomorrow here.

One has to wonder at what the long term effects will be of telling these young people tales of dire consequenses in regard to climate change. It's a scaremongering tactic designed to create hysteria. But what is the effect it will have on their mental and emotional well being in the long term? How will they handle the disappointment when nothing happens?

[Jimbuna]

They'll probably do what others have done before them....blame the previous generation.

[ikalugin]

https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/sta...48457191510016
An amasing bait.

 

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by u crank

Kinda rich, a song about the evils of capitalism from a guy who's entire success and subsequent wealth come from said capitalism.

Bam! Right on the money.

[Catfish]

^ It seems Harison did not get greedy enough to burn down whole regions of rain forest like Bolsonaro to make more money?

[u crank]

It's about hypocrisy not who did what. It's about people who claim to be our moral betters who love to tell us how sinful we are while never examining themselves. We just had a stunning example of that here in Canada. Our crown prince of wokeness Justin Trudeau, who likes to lecture his subjects about all matters of social justice is a prime example of this hypocrisy. Donald Trump is a racist but who got caught wearing blackface? Not once but three times. Oops.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Catfish

^ It seems Harison did not get greedy enough to burn down whole regions of rain forest like Bolsonaro to make more money?

No, of course not. However he was a beneficiary of a system that relied on oil, clearing land for homes, and all the he terrible things we're speaking about. And he was greedy, don't make the mistake of thinking he wasn't. Like most celebrities and artists, he took every dollar he could get. Rock stars guilty of excess? Shocking.

[Catfish]

Come on, you know exactly what i mean. So he made money alright, he lead a good life maybe wasting his wealth, drugs and all that, but still i think that Harrisons influence or better impact on nature cannot be compared to someone like Bolsonaro. And Harrison still knew to make a difference from certain deals to making money with less dirty hands, so to speak. So he criticized certain ways of making money, while he did it with guitar playing, singing, and being a hypocrite. There are less sympathetic ways to make money, which have a more negative impact on the planet.

[STEED]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and...er-forgive-you

Harsh words fall on deaf ears resulting in business as usual. I get the impression the poster girl is getting a verbal lashing directed at her is getting nasty.

[mapuc]

Greta Thunberg told world leaders that her generation would never forgive them if they failed to combat climate change.

Well by the experience I have with our youth here in Denmark and Sweden I feel the need to say what a bunch of hypocrite.

I have never seen a group who scrape down as they do.

Each time there are some youth festival, the area where they have been looks like....

So I feel the need to say...what a bunch of hypocrite

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