Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

[Dargo]

Chairman of the Duma Defense Committee Andrey Kartapolov: "There will be no general mobilization, but martial law may be introduced in some places". https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1572299706331545602

[Jimbuna]

Occupiers are suffering significant losses in Bakhmut and Avdiivka directions and have decided to transfer regiment from Syria to Ukraine, - General Staff

Operational information of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine regarding the Russian invasion as of 6:00 p.m. on 09/20/2022.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to the page of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

"Glory to Ukraine! It has been 209 days of heroic resistance of the Ukrainian nation to the Russian military invasion. The enemy continues to focus its efforts on attempts to fully occupy the Donetsk region, organize defense and hold the captured territories, as well as disrupt the active actions of the Defense Forces in certain directions.It fires at the positions of our troops along the contact line, takes measures to regroup its troops, and constantly conducts aerial reconnaissance.

During the current day, the Russian occupiers launched 7 missile and 20 air strikes, carried out more than 15 shellings with multiple rocket launchers on military and civilian objects on the territory of Ukraine, violating the norms of international humanitarian law, laws and customs of warfare. As a result of the terrorist actions of the Russian troops, the infrastructure of more than 20 settlements was damaged during the current day. Among them are Sloviansk, Siversk, Soledar, Bakhmut, Vuhledar, Stepne, Nikopol and Ochakiv. In the settlement of Pechenihy, the occupiers tried to destroy the dam of the Pechenihy Reservoir, but were unsuccessful. The threat of air and missile strikes by the enemy on the entire territory of Ukraine remains.

The situation has not changed on the Volyn and Polissia directions. In other directions, the enemy fired from tanks, mortars, and artillery of various calibers:

in the Siversk direction - in the areas of settlements Mykhailove and Huta Studenetska of Chernihiv region and Novovasylivka and Riasne of Sumy region;
in the Slobozhansk direction - in the areas of Kozacha Lopan, Strelecha, Hlyboke, Derhachi, Fiholivka, Dvorichna, Shevchenkive, Kupiansk and Kamianka settlements;
in the Kramatorsk direction - Yarova, Pryshyb, Donetske, Serebrianka, Shchurove, Raihorodok, Ozerne, Kryva Luka, Mykolaivka, Siversk, Ivano-Dariivka, Rozdolivka, Oleksandrivka and Hryhorivka;
in the Bakhmut region – Verkhniokamianske, Vyimka, Spirne, Vesele, Bilohorivka, Yakovlivka, Soledar, Bakhmutske, Bakhmut, Vesela Dolyna, Odradivka, Mykolaivka Druha, Zaitseve, Mayorsk and New York;
in the Avdiivka direction – Krasnohorivka, Mariinka, Novomykhailivka, Pervomaiske;
in the Zaporizhzhia region – Novosilka, Novopil, Vremivka, Velyka Novosilka, Vuhledar, Novomayorske, Zaliznychne, Huliaipole, Malynivka, Chervone, Dorozhnianka, Mali Shcherbaky, Mala Tokmachka and Kamianske.
More than 25 settlements were shelled by the enemy in the South Bug direction. In particular, Visokopillia, Myroliubivka, Novohryhorivka, Bilohirka, Blahodativka, Shyroke, Zoria, Shevchenkove, Ternovi Pody, Pravdyne, Myrne and Oleksandrivka.

As a result of the successful actions of units of the Defense Forces in the Bakhmut and Avdiivka directions, the enemy continues to suffer significant losses. Medical facilities in the city of Horlivka are full of seriously wounded servicemen of the occupation forces. In addition, two large trucks with the bodies of dead persons from the 1st Army Corps of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation were moved from the territory of the Kherson region to the temporarily occupied territory of the Donetsk region. The quantity is being specified.

Due to the unsuccessful conduct of covert mobilization measures, the military-political leadership of the Russian Federation made a decision to withdraw units of the 217th Parachute Regiment from the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic and their further preparation for transfer to the territory of Ukraine.

Units of the Defense Forces repelled enemy attacks in the areas of the settlements of Vesele, Kurdiumivka, Mykolaivka Druha, Zaitseve, Mayorsk, Pervomaiske, Mariinka, and Novomykhailivka.

During the current day, in order to support the actions of ground groups, the aviation of the Defense Forces hit 12 areas of concentration of enemy manpower and military equipment and one position of an anti-aircraft missile complex. In addition, our air defense units destroyed one enemy UAV.

Missile troops and artillery during the current day inflicted fire damage on 30 enemy objects. In particular, in 17 areas of concentration of personnel, weapons and military equipment, 10 areas of concentration of artillery, as well as 3 warehouses of ammunition. The total losses of the enemy are being clarified.

United we are invincible! We are approaching victory together! "Glory to Ukraine!" - says the information of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3368473

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

If matters turn nuclear I think only the US well retaliate in a likewise manner.

We’ll probably launch those we have stored in Germany and make it look like they did it.

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

If matters turn nuclear I think only the US well retaliate in a likewise manner.

Not our fight, and I'm pretty sure the U.S. won't use nuclear weapons unless attacked directly with nuclear weapons.

[mapuc]

Hmm how sure is it, that it would mean the end of Putin's era if he declare full mobilisation ?

He's not going to do it...not yet.

Markus

[Skybird]

He prepares to do it.

It will not mean his end. Like every dictator he will use force against his own people, if needed.

Quite some in the military tick even more radical than he does. Which is the reason for two possible scenarios: that they topple him, or that they stay loyal. It will depend on how they see their own interests. Putin is a secret service man, not the military's man, the spy stuff is the main fundament he bases on. And the KGB always held the military on a short line. So does the FSB.

[mapuc]

Thank you

It has been mentioned so many times even here in this thread. It would mean the end of his career

You said it he will use force against his own people, if needed.

His government is his marionet dolls.

Said it before Russia is Putin or Putin is Russia.

Markus

[Rockstar]

I heard Brittney Griner took a six contract with Wagner Group as a stormtrooper so she could get out jail early.

[Rockstar]

Kremlin pool journalist Dmitry Smirnov says the address will be at 8am Moscow time.

[les green01]

Originally Posted by MaDef

Not our fight, and I'm pretty sure the U.S. won't use nuclear weapons unless attacked directly with nuclear weapons.

depends on if you're talking missiles or not land base most you have is 20 minutes before they go off and have nice little clouds between USA and Russia so they wouldn't wait too long before counter from sea you can cut that time down even more you wouldn't want someone sitting there with a thumb up their backside

[Skybird]

The Economists argues that we must not worry so much about socalled strategic nuclear weapons of huge destruction and range, but small socalled tactical weapons. Their military relevance is apparently limited, but they are meant to force the enemy into psychological shock, and from there: into surrender.

https://www.economist.com/the-econom...clear-conflict

To be sure, Russia’s precision munitions have often missed their target in this war, and are running short. But tactical nuclear weapons would not be a viable substitute: huge numbers would have to be used to produce a lasting military effect. One study of India-Pakistan scenarios concludes that a five-kiloton nuclear bomb might destroy as few as 13 tanks if they were dispersed. In any event, Russia has shown vanishingly little ability to locate and strike moving targets.

Regarding the referendums, I think the west must answer with mutliplying military deliveries to make clear to the few sane minds that may still exist in the fascist military what the name of the game is. There cnanot be any limits according range and "heavy callibre" then anymore. To talk to the political leaders is absolutely useless now, they are completely insane and totally disconnected form reality, now inventing their own alternative reality and according narration that reverse the real world by 180°. Its totally pointless to talk to them anymore, they should be put into mental asylums and drugged into oblivion. They do not share this reality and dimension with the rest of the world anymore, but drift and dwell in their own nightmarish dreamworld. We have seen this kind of madness in Hitler in the later stages of the war.



Stop assuming the Russians politically decide rationally anymore. They don't. They do not live with their minds in this world anymore.

[Catfish]

Russians react to mobilisation

"Russia saw a spike in citizens searching Google for how to leave the country ahead of a now-canceled national address from President Putin, driving speculation that Moscow would escalate its war effort in Ukraine."

https://www.newsweek.com/how-leave-r...ddress-1744724

https://twitter.com/meduza_en/status...11066687725569

[Jimbuna]

President Putin says military reservists are to be sent to Ukraine as part of a partial mobilisation of Russian forces.

In a televised address to the nation, he said this was a necessary step to ensure Russian territorial integrity.

He accused the West of wanting to see Russia weakened and said a threat to retaliate further "is not a bluff"

Meanwhile, Western nations have condemned Moscow's plans to hold so-called referendums in parts of Ukraine that are currently under Russian control.

The US, Germany and France have said they would never recognise the results of such "sham" ballots.

And world leaders are gathering in New York for a UN meeting - US President Biden and Ukraine's President Zelensky will speak later.