[REL] War Ace Campaign (WAC) 5.0 2017 - Page 100

ericlea · 09-26-19, 01:46 AM

Hi,

Because of ram limit, you can't play full interior + widescreen. It is written in wac5's installation manual.

SW1899 · 09-26-19, 08:09 AM

Ahoi,

@ArnoldR
Very interesting :

Did you made these changes in basic.cfg from Cfg folder of Data folder ?
Neutral:1
Allied:1
Axis:-1

In mine it's :
[RENOWN]
RenownReachGridObjCompleted=500
RenownPatrolGridObjCompleted=200
CompletedPatrol=100
NEUTRAL=-1
ALLIED=1
AXIS=-10
WrongShipSunk=-5000
FirstRankRenown=1000
SecondRankRenown=3500
EndCampaign=-5000

Playing via SHCommander with realistic career disabled and start mission at sea + Detection GWX for WAC5 mod.

Did Patrol 15 with new IXC in March-April 1941. Attacked convoy coming from USA in AL grid. There were neutral ships (marked green). Not targeting neutral and launched my 4 bow torpedoes . Can't see resullts because 5 escorts ships rapidly discovered me and makes me crash dive + silent running at 200m. 45 mn dephtcharging. Escape. Sank 3 ships confirmed by log : on the map one marked red, one grey and the last one not marked - I think because I was to deep and / or too far from sinking place. After 1 week returning back to Wilhelmshaven : dead within 20km of basis with finishing patrol at base with no explication. Reload several times, tried at the end to finish same way much nearer to base. Not dead but degradated from Kaleu to ObLt with an approximatevely -4500 in renown for patrol. No explication too from game (BDU). Nevertheless stange game behaviour.
In conclusion I think I must have sink a neutral but it was really hard paid.
Did the patrol again as I really was not agree with this outcome.

Attacking convoys with neutral ships and trying to solve multiple targets especially the more valuables - awlays in the middle of convoys - can have the most worst consequences.

I only miss the lack of information from the game when such things happened.

Patrol logs from game or SHCommander don't mentioned the nationality of ships too.

Greetings

Capt. Morgan · 09-26-19, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArnoldR

I'm not sure about this... What is a "wrong" ship to sink ?? ...

This one was a polish flagged hospital ship,

SW1899 · 09-26-19, 09:14 AM

Ahoi,

I was wondering myself if following could be added to WAC :

- dephtcharge shake like NvDrifter did.
- adding new harbours based on Thfeu58's work.
- Blue Interior light like FlakMonkey's : we have yellow for day, red for night.
Blue could be for silent running besides it was historically not the case.

I tried to use these with no great success with GWX before, only dephtcharge shake was satisfying.

Greetings

SW1899 · 09-28-19, 09:09 AM

Ahoi,

Trying more than 10 times to finish patrol 15 with at the end only to be dead !
Flotilla 2 Wilhelmshaven ordered each time to patrol grid BF 29 as primary (tried between March-April 1941 with brand new IXC and then back to my old VIIB). Then ordered to attack Loch Ewe (rather suicidal : one try) and when trying to catch convoys in AL always CTDs or bad weather : 15 (no chance).

Then BDU order : cross Strait of Gibraltar (2 times if you will go back) and patrol grid CO (especially 25-26 when Greece evacuated) : did it in last play but return where (did one time Thalia : CTD) only with 25% fuel ?
And no ship activity in Mediterranean : i'm playing Baltic-Atantic campaign. Nonsense .

What's the purpose ? Why is BDU sending me to hell ?

Each time when succeeding ending patrol near base witn no more torpedoes and not following BDU orders : dead or degradated with -5000 in renown.

Is it a way to say me I've done enough ?
No retirement with honour and promotion ?

When yes, BDU is really not grateful.
Perhaps I should fight next time with the other side ?

Greetings

ArnoldR · 09-28-19, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SW1899

@ArnoldR
Very interesting :

Did you made these changes in basic.cfg from Cfg folder of Data folder ?
Neutral:1
Allied:1
Axis:-1

Yes

Quote:

Originally Posted by SW1899

In mine it's :
[RENOWN]
RenownReachGridObjCompleted=500
RenownPatrolGridObjCompleted=200
CompletedPatrol=100
NEUTRAL=-1
ALLIED=1
AXIS=-10
WrongShipSunk=-5000
FirstRankRenown=1000
SecondRankRenown=3500
EndCampaign=-5000

....

Not dead but degradated from Kaleu to ObLt with an approximatevely -4500 in renown for patrol. No explication too from game (BDU). Nevertheless stange game behaviour.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SW1899

Each time when succeeding ending patrol near base witn no more torpedoes and not following BDU orders : dead or degradated with -5000 in renown.

Is it a way to say me I've done enough ?
No retirement with honour and promotion ?

Yes, I think so... Time has come to retire from front service and train new recruits or work inside the BdU.

SW1899 · 09-29-19, 09:58 AM

Ahoi,
@ArnoldR

Thank you very much.

I apply the changes you've done + EndCampaign=5000 (could be 0 later too), as a try.
This will be my first tiny modding attempt in SH3.

As I try now BDU to be send packing, I will wait first Flotilla 2 be transferred to Lorient basis and will at least be lost at sea as Kapitän z.See.

Redo again patrol 15 and will reload it when ending it till I docked alive and be able to start patrol 16.

And I agree with you about career length features.
I did other small changes to see if it works (only in .cfg and .menu files).
I took a long time in searchs in older posts of Subsim Radio Forum to see some specific subjects.

I understand now much more, I hope, what happened to me in last patrols.
Career before laucnching patrol 15, from SH3Cdr Personnal file :

PERSONALAKTE

Name: WOLFGANG BUTTJER
Geburtsdatum: 07OKT14
Geburtsort: GELNHAUSEN
Einberufungsdatum: 01APR34 (CREW 34)
Beförderungen
11JAN35 SEEKADETT
01SEP35 FÄHNRICH Z. S.
01MAI37 OBERFÄHNRICH Z. S.
01NOV37 LEUTNANT Z. S.
03FEB40 OBERLEUTNANT Z. S.
09OKT40 KAPITÄNLEUTNANT
Auszeichnungen
20SEP39 EISERNES KREUZ ZWEITER KLASSE
14OKT39 EISERNES KREUZ ERSTER KLASSE
14OKT39 DEUTSCHES KREUZ
09DEZ39 RITTERKREUZ
03FEB40 RITTERKREUZ MIT EICHENLAUB
15MRZ40 RITTERKREUZ MIT EICHENLAUB UND SCHWERTERN
15MRZ40 RITTERKREUZ MIT EICHENLAUB, SCHWERTERN UND BRILLANTEN
21APR40 RITTERKREUZ MIT GOLDENEM EICHENLAUB, SCHWERTERN UND BRILLANTEN
Abzeichen
27AUG39 U-BOOT-FRONTSPANGE
20SEP39 U-BOOTABZEICHEN
Versetzungen
30MAI38 U-Boot Flottille Weddigen (Kommandantenausbildung)
02AUG39 2. Flottille (14 Feindfahrten)
Kommandierte U-Boote
02AUG39 U-36, Typ VIIB (14 Feindfahrten)
Feindfahrt / Daten / Versenkte Schiffe (Handelsschiff/Kriegsschiff) / Tonnage (BRT/TO) (Handelsschiff/Kriegsschiff) / Anmerkungen
1 02AUG39 - 05AUG39 (4 Seetage) 0 (0/0) 0 (0/0)
2 19AUG39 - 27AUG39 (9 Seetage) 0 (0/0) 0 (0/0)
3 10SEP39 - 20SEP39 (11 Seetage) 17 (16/1) 46346 (44516/1830)
4 04OKT39 - 14OKT39 (11 Seetage) 3 (3/0) 50164 (50164/0)
5 28OKT39 - 09DEZ39 (43 Seetage) 17 (14/3) 40996 (37231/3765) U-Boot beschädigt (R. 83.28%)
6 23DEZ39 - 03FEB40 (43 Seetage) 8 (7/1) 47897 (46067/1830)
7 17FEB40 - 15MRZ40 (28 Seetage) 13 (13/0) 71047 (71047/0) U-Boot beschädigt (R. 97.96%)
8 29MRZ40 - 21APR40 (24 Seetage) 8 (5/3) 42122 (24612/17510)
9 05MAI40 - 23MAI40 (19 Seetage) 16 (15/1) 57634 (56446/1188) U-Boot beschädigt (R. 89.30%)
10 06JUN40 - 04JUL40 (29 Seetage) 10 (9/1) 52453 (52410/43) U-Boot beschädigt (R. 93.35%)
11 18JUL40 - 05SEP40 (50 Seetage) 7 (7/0) 93351 (93351/0)
12 19SEP40 - 09OKT40 (21 Seetage) 7 (6/1) 39743 (38553/1190) U-Boot beschädigt (R. 97.73%)
13 23OKT40 - 12DEZ40 (51 Seetage) 6 (6/0) 36530 (36530/0)
14 26DEZ40 - 24FEB41 (61 Seetage) 8 (8/0) 51087 (51087/0)
GESAMT: 14 Feindfahrten (404 Seetage) 120 (109/11) 629370 (602014/27356) 9 abgeschossene Flugzeuge 0 Besatzungsverluste

And if changing U-Boot and / or appliyng some upgrades, this coasts renown points too : seems that when just above a rank in renown you will lose points and go back to previous rank when changes applied after ending next patrol.
I will try next time to leave game after these changes + roll-back and quit SH3Cdr and relaunch the all for next patrol. Will see what happens.

Greetings

SW1899 · 09-29-19, 10:28 AM

Ahoi HanSolo,

Did a detour to Helgoland in my last patrol (an island I often visited before in real life : part of my familly is from Bremen and as I was a kid I often made Butterfahrten mid70s-80s when Europe was not a single customs area as today).

But near to it I was deeply shocked.

Wat ? Wie ? Waar is de Lange Anna ???

Please can you do a big favour only for me and replace this awful pyramid against the Lange Anna / Nathurn Stak.

Besides joking if I can help I'm ready.

Moin, moin.

Anvar1061 · 09-30-19, 05:37 PM

Kaleuns, who plays the Black Sea Campaign, what files should I change to be able to choose in the 30th flotilla U-boot type IIA?

SW1899 · 09-30-19, 06:10 PM

Ahoi,
I made my 16th patrol Mai-June 1941 and finally have been ordered to transfer to Lorient while at sea when less than 10% fuel and 8 torpedoes remaining.

Patrol not successful only sink a carrier Indifatigable + damaging Renown and 3 ships (1 was a wreck) and could only follow by radio the sinking of Bismarck : too far for helping.

And I saw the nice U-Boot bunkers of Lorient.
Wilhelmshaven was becoming a little too hot : nice welcoming home by Halifax group bombing you when nearing basis and thinking you are safe now, especially at end of patrol 15 in the night + weather 12.
Same when leaving basis for Patrol 16 this time at day and 2 bomber wawes.

I docked and was again dead as for patrol 15 but I cheat.

The only information when a career is ended is given by SH3Cdr in the Personal File Update at the end of it.
And SH3Cdr gives you the choice too to surrender instead to be lost at sea in main screen + info Personal File.

Will launch Patrol 17.

Greetings

Randomizer · 09-30-19, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anvar1061

Kaleuns, who plays the Black Sea Campaign, what files should I change to be able to choose in the 30th flotilla U-boot type IIA?

Tried some things and there was zero useful help in the Forum. Never managed to get the WAC Black Sea Campaign to work and have since given up trying.

-C

Anvar1061 · 10-01-19, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randomizer

Tried some things and there was zero useful help in the Forum. Never managed to get the WAC Black Sea Campaign to work and have since given up trying.

I think I found part of the problem.
I found these two files:
D:\SH3 Commander\Cfg\U-boat availability.cfg

D:\SH3 Commander\Cfg\U-boat numbers.cfg

HanSolo78 · 10-01-19, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SW1899

Ahoi HanSolo,

Did a detour to Helgoland in my last patrol (an island I often visited before in real life : part of my familly is from Bremen and as I was a kid I often made Butterfahrten mid70s-80s when Europe was not a single customs area as today).

But near to it I was deeply shocked.

Wat ? Wie ? Waar is de Lange Anna ???

Please can you do a big favour only for me and replace this awful pyramid against the Lange Anna / Nathurn Stak.

Besides joking if I can help I'm ready.

Moin, moin.

Well.. a long long time has passed since Helgoland was made by TigerKatziTatzi in 2006 if I remember correct.
He made Helgoland as good as he could because there are several SH3 limitations in changing terrain.
I myself also used the terrain editor a long time ago.
So... the question is if the nescessary changes could be made with the SH3 terrain limitations.

@Anvar1061

Try to use WAC5.1 basic.cfg for black sea SH3 commander start.
I reduced the black sea campaign basic.cfg a lot to have only type IIA available.

SW1899 · 10-02-19, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt. Morgan

This one was a polish flagged hospital ship,

Ahoi Capt. Morgan,

This happened to me now too at the end of Patrol 18 : attacked convoy - all marked red - and intentionally targeted Carham Hospital Ship with British flag; result -5000 in renown.

I think the thing to do is to change the value as ArnoldR explained in the Basic.cfg file - in Cfg subfolder of Game Data folder.

Set values now to and will see next :

[RENOWN]
RenownReachGridObjCompleted=500
RenownPatrolGridObjCompleted=200
CompletedPatrol=100
NEUTRAL=1
ALLIED=1
AXIS=-1
WrongShipSunk=-1
FirstRankRenown=1000
SecondRankRenown=3500
EndCampaign=5000

Greetings

SW1899 · 10-02-19, 10:36 AM

[QUOTE=HanSolo78;2630200]Well.. a long long time has passed since Helgoland was made by TigerKatziTatzi in 2006 if I remember correct.
He made Helgoland as good as he could because there are several SH3 limitations in changing terrain.
I myself also used the terrain editor a long time ago.
So... the question is if the nescessary changes could be made with the SH3 terrain limitations.

Ahoi HanSolo,
Thank you for your answer. Schade, Schade.
OK when Terrain limitations then no use to do it in anyway.
They are for sure other features that are better for game improvement as you said.

Preparing for Patrol 19 September 1941.

Moin.

09-26-19, 01:46 AM	#1486
ericlea Samurai Navy Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Strasbourg F Posts: 572 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 0	Hi, Because of ram limit, you can't play full interior + widescreen. It is written in wac5's installation manual. __________________ SH3 CCOM12 (+Fifi 2021) Installation Tuto SH3 GWXonealex (2021) Installation Tuto SH3 WAC5.2 (2019) Installation Tuto

09-26-19, 08:09 AM	#1487
SW1899 Watch Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Paris Posts: 17 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Renown and sinking neutral Ahoi, @ArnoldR Very interesting : Did you made these changes in basic.cfg from Cfg folder of Data folder ? Neutral:1 Allied:1 Axis:-1 In mine it's : [RENOWN] RenownReachGridObjCompleted=500 RenownPatrolGridObjCompleted=200 CompletedPatrol=100 NEUTRAL=-1 ALLIED=1 AXIS=-10 WrongShipSunk=-5000 FirstRankRenown=1000 SecondRankRenown=3500 EndCampaign=-5000 Playing via SHCommander with realistic career disabled and start mission at sea + Detection GWX for WAC5 mod. Did Patrol 15 with new IXC in March-April 1941. Attacked convoy coming from USA in AL grid. There were neutral ships (marked green). Not targeting neutral and launched my 4 bow torpedoes . Can't see resullts because 5 escorts ships rapidly discovered me and makes me crash dive + silent running at 200m. 45 mn dephtcharging. Escape. Sank 3 ships confirmed by log : on the map one marked red, one grey and the last one not marked - I think because I was to deep and / or too far from sinking place. After 1 week returning back to Wilhelmshaven : dead within 20km of basis with finishing patrol at base with no explication. Reload several times, tried at the end to finish same way much nearer to base. Not dead but degradated from Kaleu to ObLt with an approximatevely -4500 in renown for patrol. No explication too from game (BDU). Nevertheless stange game behaviour. In conclusion I think I must have sink a neutral but it was really hard paid. Did the patrol again as I really was not agree with this outcome. Attacking convoys with neutral ships and trying to solve multiple targets especially the more valuables - awlays in the middle of convoys - can have the most worst consequences. I only miss the lack of information from the game when such things happened. Patrol logs from game or SHCommander don't mentioned the nationality of ships too. Greetings __________________ Last edited by SW1899; 09-26-19 at 09:27 AM.

09-26-19, 09:14 AM	#1489
SW1899 Watch Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Paris Posts: 17 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Additional features for WAC5 ? Ahoi, I was wondering myself if following could be added to WAC : - dephtcharge shake like NvDrifter did. - adding new harbours based on Thfeu58's work. - Blue Interior light like FlakMonkey's : we have yellow for day, red for night. Blue could be for silent running besides it was historically not the case. I tried to use these with no great success with GWX before, only dephtcharge shake was satisfying. Greetings __________________ Last edited by SW1899; 09-26-19 at 09:51 AM.

09-28-19, 09:09 AM	#1490
SW1899 Watch Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Paris Posts: 17 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Is Patrol 15 the end of game ? Ahoi, Trying more than 10 times to finish patrol 15 with at the end only to be dead ! Flotilla 2 Wilhelmshaven ordered each time to patrol grid BF 29 as primary (tried between March-April 1941 with brand new IXC and then back to my old VIIB). Then ordered to attack Loch Ewe (rather suicidal : one try) and when trying to catch convoys in AL always CTDs or bad weather : 15 (no chance). Then BDU order : cross Strait of Gibraltar (2 times if you will go back) and patrol grid CO (especially 25-26 when Greece evacuated) : did it in last play but return where (did one time Thalia : CTD) only with 25% fuel ? And no ship activity in Mediterranean : i'm playing Baltic-Atantic campaign. Nonsense . What's the purpose ? Why is BDU sending me to hell ? Each time when succeeding ending patrol near base witn no more torpedoes and not following BDU orders : dead or degradated with -5000 in renown. Is it a way to say me I've done enough ? No retirement with honour and promotion ? When yes, BDU is really not grateful. Perhaps I should fight next time with the other side ? Greetings __________________

09-29-19, 09:58 AM	#1492
SW1899 Watch Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Paris Posts: 17 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Number of patrols Ahoi, @ArnoldR Thank you very much. I apply the changes you've done + EndCampaign=5000 (could be 0 later too), as a try. This will be my first tiny modding attempt in SH3. As I try now BDU to be send packing, I will wait first Flotilla 2 be transferred to Lorient basis and will at least be lost at sea as Kapitän z.See. Redo again patrol 15 and will reload it when ending it till I docked alive and be able to start patrol 16. And I agree with you about career length features. I did other small changes to see if it works (only in .cfg and .menu files). I took a long time in searchs in older posts of Subsim Radio Forum to see some specific subjects. I understand now much more, I hope, what happened to me in last patrols. Career before laucnching patrol 15, from SH3Cdr Personnal file : PERSONALAKTE Name: WOLFGANG BUTTJER Geburtsdatum: 07OKT14 Geburtsort: GELNHAUSEN Einberufungsdatum: 01APR34 (CREW 34) Beförderungen 11JAN35 SEEKADETT 01SEP35 FÄHNRICH Z. S. 01MAI37 OBERFÄHNRICH Z. S. 01NOV37 LEUTNANT Z. S. 03FEB40 OBERLEUTNANT Z. S. 09OKT40 KAPITÄNLEUTNANT Auszeichnungen 20SEP39 EISERNES KREUZ ZWEITER KLASSE 14OKT39 EISERNES KREUZ ERSTER KLASSE 14OKT39 DEUTSCHES KREUZ 09DEZ39 RITTERKREUZ 03FEB40 RITTERKREUZ MIT EICHENLAUB 15MRZ40 RITTERKREUZ MIT EICHENLAUB UND SCHWERTERN 15MRZ40 RITTERKREUZ MIT EICHENLAUB, SCHWERTERN UND BRILLANTEN 21APR40 RITTERKREUZ MIT GOLDENEM EICHENLAUB, SCHWERTERN UND BRILLANTEN Abzeichen 27AUG39 U-BOOT-FRONTSPANGE 20SEP39 U-BOOTABZEICHEN Versetzungen 30MAI38 U-Boot Flottille Weddigen (Kommandantenausbildung) 02AUG39 2. Flottille (14 Feindfahrten) Kommandierte U-Boote 02AUG39 U-36, Typ VIIB (14 Feindfahrten) Feindfahrt / Daten / Versenkte Schiffe (Handelsschiff/Kriegsschiff) / Tonnage (BRT/TO) (Handelsschiff/Kriegsschiff) / Anmerkungen 1 02AUG39 - 05AUG39 (4 Seetage) 0 (0/0) 0 (0/0) 2 19AUG39 - 27AUG39 (9 Seetage) 0 (0/0) 0 (0/0) 3 10SEP39 - 20SEP39 (11 Seetage) 17 (16/1) 46346 (44516/1830) 4 04OKT39 - 14OKT39 (11 Seetage) 3 (3/0) 50164 (50164/0) 5 28OKT39 - 09DEZ39 (43 Seetage) 17 (14/3) 40996 (37231/3765) U-Boot beschädigt (R. 83.28%) 6 23DEZ39 - 03FEB40 (43 Seetage) 8 (7/1) 47897 (46067/1830) 7 17FEB40 - 15MRZ40 (28 Seetage) 13 (13/0) 71047 (71047/0) U-Boot beschädigt (R. 97.96%) 8 29MRZ40 - 21APR40 (24 Seetage) 8 (5/3) 42122 (24612/17510) 9 05MAI40 - 23MAI40 (19 Seetage) 16 (15/1) 57634 (56446/1188) U-Boot beschädigt (R. 89.30%) 10 06JUN40 - 04JUL40 (29 Seetage) 10 (9/1) 52453 (52410/43) U-Boot beschädigt (R. 93.35%) 11 18JUL40 - 05SEP40 (50 Seetage) 7 (7/0) 93351 (93351/0) 12 19SEP40 - 09OKT40 (21 Seetage) 7 (6/1) 39743 (38553/1190) U-Boot beschädigt (R. 97.73%) 13 23OKT40 - 12DEZ40 (51 Seetage) 6 (6/0) 36530 (36530/0) 14 26DEZ40 - 24FEB41 (61 Seetage) 8 (8/0) 51087 (51087/0) GESAMT: 14 Feindfahrten (404 Seetage) 120 (109/11) 629370 (602014/27356) 9 abgeschossene Flugzeuge 0 Besatzungsverluste And if changing U-Boot and / or appliyng some upgrades, this coasts renown points too : seems that when just above a rank in renown you will lose points and go back to previous rank when changes applied after ending next patrol. I will try next time to leave game after these changes + roll-back and quit SH3Cdr and relaunch the all for next patrol. Will see what happens. Greetings __________________ Last edited by SW1899; 09-29-19 at 10:10 AM.

09-29-19, 10:28 AM	#1493
SW1899 Watch Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Paris Posts: 17 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Wo ist die Lange Anna ? Ahoi HanSolo, Did a detour to Helgoland in my last patrol (an island I often visited before in real life : part of my familly is from Bremen and as I was a kid I often made Butterfahrten mid70s-80s when Europe was not a single customs area as today). But near to it I was deeply shocked. Wat ? Wie ? Waar is de Lange Anna ??? Please can you do a big favour only for me and replace this awful pyramid against the Lange Anna / Nathurn Stak. Besides joking if I can help I'm ready. Moin, moin. __________________ Last edited by SW1899; 09-29-19 at 10:43 AM.

09-30-19, 05:37 PM	#1494
Anvar1061 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2012 Location: In the sea, on land and above Posts: 3,344 Downloads: 846 Uploads: 0	Kaleuns, who plays the Black Sea Campaign, what files should I change to be able to choose in the 30th flotilla U-boot type IIA?

09-30-19, 06:10 PM	#1495
SW1899 Watch Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Paris Posts: 17 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	I "beat" BDU Ahoi, I made my 16th patrol Mai-June 1941 and finally have been ordered to transfer to Lorient while at sea when less than 10% fuel and 8 torpedoes remaining. Patrol not successful only sink a carrier Indifatigable + damaging Renown and 3 ships (1 was a wreck) and could only follow by radio the sinking of Bismarck : too far for helping. And I saw the nice U-Boot bunkers of Lorient. Wilhelmshaven was becoming a little too hot : nice welcoming home by Halifax group bombing you when nearing basis and thinking you are safe now, especially at end of patrol 15 in the night + weather 12. Same when leaving basis for Patrol 16 this time at day and 2 bomber wawes. I docked and was again dead as for patrol 15 but I cheat. The only information when a career is ended is given by SH3Cdr in the Personal File Update at the end of it. And SH3Cdr gives you the choice too to surrender instead to be lost at sea in main screen + info Personal File. Will launch Patrol 17. Greetings __________________ Last edited by SW1899; 09-30-19 at 06:25 PM.

10-02-19, 10:36 AM	#1500
SW1899 Watch Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Paris Posts: 17 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	[QUOTE=HanSolo78;2630200]Well.. a long long time has passed since Helgoland was made by TigerKatziTatzi in 2006 if I remember correct. He made Helgoland as good as he could because there are several SH3 limitations in changing terrain. I myself also used the terrain editor a long time ago. So... the question is if the nescessary changes could be made with the SH3 terrain limitations. Ahoi HanSolo, Thank you for your answer. Schade, Schade. OK when Terrain limitations then no use to do it in anyway. They are for sure other features that are better for game improvement as you said. Preparing for Patrol 19 September 1941. Moin. __________________