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Old 04-18-21, 11:38 AM   #16741
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in Namibia?
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is it a Raddanpfer, Schhaufelraddampfer, Seitenraddampfer or a plain ol' Heckraddampfer?
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in Namibia?
Not in Namibia.
" [...] is it Raddampfer, Schaufelraddampfer, Seitenraddampfer or a plain ol' Heckraddampfer?"
Those were two questions, or even more
It is a Raddampfer, which is the same as a Schaufelraddampfer, but not a Seitenraddampfer – it is a Heckraddampfer.
Or, as mentioned before (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...tcount=16733): a stern wheeler.

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Used for military purposes?
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Used for military purposes?
Not planned as such, but then yes.
She was basically a flat-going freighter, laid buoys and was used as a troop transport in WW1. Its whereabouts are unknown.
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Not in Namibia.
" [...] is it Raddampfer, Schaufelraddampfer, Seitenraddampfer or a plain ol' Heckraddampfer?"
Those were two questions, or even more
It is a Raddampfer, which is the same as a Schaufelraddampfer, but not a Seitenraddampfer – it is a Heckraddampfer.
Or, as mentioned before (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...tcount=16733): a stern wheeler.

@Jim: Not on the Nile.
Well the second
question was intended humorously: can you imagine some enigma typist having to put "Schaufelraddampfer" into code...no wonder Germany lost two World Wars! Was this Raddampfer used on the Zambezi river?...now searching 'Heckraddampfers uff der Zambezi!?"
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well.....if it's not the Zambezi....and it wasn't a lake 'afaik'Tanganika?)than it must be some other important East Arican river Von Vorbeck had to travel on to keep the British occupied....
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Well the second
question was intended humorously [...]

Very well, it is good german attitude to pretend to take all seriously, while having fun seeing the other awkwardly run aground, so to speak (and fitting here).
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[...].now searching 'Heckraddampfers uff der Zambezi!?"
Practicing the above, historically there was no Enigma in WW1, and likewise it was not the Zambezi's waters this nautical ruin messed up
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well.....if it's not the Zambezi....and it wasn't a lake 'afaik'Tanganika?)than it must be some other important East Arican river Von Vorbeck had to travel on to keep the British occupied....
No idea whether von Lettow-Vorbeck ever used it, or any of his troops. There sure is no notice to be found.. any Askaris belonging to the "Schutztruppe" would have been considered as "troops"; whether they played an active role in Vorbeck's guerilla wars.. no idea.

Hint 1: There is a higher plateau in today's Tanzania, that some german airship intended to reach and supply Lettow-Vorbeck's troops, but there also is a wider depression/valley in this area where the river flows, which waters this Heckraddampfer stirred up.
The ship started its journeys at Daressalaam and on the Rufiji river, but it was also used elsewhere.

Hint 2: The river the ship sailed on and is named after, also bears a second name

OT: General overview, after war was being declared by England, german governor Mr Schnee of Deutsch-Ostafrika was dumbstruck. The german colony was all prepared to host festivities and an international fair and exchange of technology and goods together with the neighbouring english colonies; he and the colony was completely ill-prepared to wage war.
Since there had been international treaties by the leading western nations to not attack each other in the colonies in case of a war (to not give the natives give ideas or any doubt of this civilised and peaceful "superiority" of the white races), he expected the war not to come to Africa.
It became soon clear that Belgium and England would not hold back though, and when Lettow-Vorbeck insisted to defend Deutsch-Ostafrika with his police forces Schnee was in a checkmate position. He had tried to clear the situation with diplomacy and negotiations, but when english troops tried to take Daressalaam by force, he gave in to Lettow-Vorbeck.

Governor Schnee is said to have used the steamer in question, in the first months of this "war", on the Rufiji river.
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there is a beautiful etching of a similar paddle wheeler used in Portuguese Mozambique on the bay there with the correct smokestake...is this Tanzanian river a dedicated RAMSAR site?
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there is a beautiful etching of a similar paddle wheeler used in Portuguese Mozambique on the bay there with the correct smokestake...is this Tanzanian river a dedicated RAMSAR site?
Not portuguese of course, but i have checked and this land is now a RAMSAR site indeed.

Edit: You should already have it, just post a name!
Edit 2: the second/other name of the river will do!! (As said before, name of the river is name of the ship)
Edit 3: Please post the picture or link of the "similar paddle wheeler used in Portuguese Mozambique"!

You will not easily find anything about the ship itself, this is what my wife calls my "arbitrary knowledge". It even had two paddle wheels, both at the stern. It also had a circular (buzz) saw installed near the boiler, to cut wood for heating the latter. It could be towed across land, and had a very shallow draft.
You will not find any of this on the 'web, just post a name..
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to clarify your statement: the river has more than one name or the steamer has had more than one name?EDIT:
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The river has two names, the steamer bears one of them. To name one of the river's names is enough to win (just decided so )

The film "African Queen" also plays a role in it, while the geography in this film is all screwed up. Nothing to do with the Tanganjika lake. And we all know the real African Queen was of course the "Graf Goetzen", which was not a "gun boat" by any means (good old propaganda )
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