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Old 02-05-20, 09:58 AM   #166
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At least 10 people on board a cruise ship docked in the Japanese port of Yokohama have tested positive for coronavirus, health authorities say.

Almost 300 of the 3,700 people on the Diamond Princess have been tested so far. The number of infected could rise.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-51381594
Being on a ship (especially if underway at sea) is one of the last places I'd want to be.
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Old 02-05-20, 11:17 AM   #167
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Being on a ship (especially if underway at sea) is one of the last places I'd want to be.
Not me ... my time at sea was with healthy people

I see some kind of similarity here with the man that died in Hong Kong had only been in China for a few hours before he took at cruise in Japan. So he comes back tested positive and died in Hong Kong (which now has the nurses on strike) and I wondered if he had passed it on to the ships passengers.

Now there are two cruise ships in Japan with the same virus problems


Ten people aboard a quarantined cruise ship run by Doral-based Carnival have tested positive for coronavirus, including one American.

https://news.yahoo.com/10-people-tes...155659657.html

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One Filipino crew member, two Australian passengers, three Japanese passengers, one passenger from the U.S. and three passengers from Hong Kong have all tested positive aboard the Diamond Princess, which will remained locked down for at least 14 more days in Japan, Princess Cruises said in a statement Tuesday.

Japanese health officials held the Diamond Princess ship at the Yokohama port outside Tokyo on Tuesday to inspect all 3,711 people on board because a man tested positive for the virus on Feb. 1 after disembarking in Hong Kong.

The Japanese military has taken the people who have the virus to local hospitals, the company said. Around half of the 2,666 passengers on board the ship are from Japan; 416 are from the U.S.
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Nearly 2,000 people are also being held on another cruise ship called World Dream at Hong Kong’s Kai Tak Cruise Terminal after several crew members reported symptoms associated with the coronavirus.
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Old 02-05-20, 01:16 PM   #168
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"This is not a flu virus we are used to".
True, though the flu virus we know kills ten thousands more than this new one.

Better safe than sorry alright, you have a point.
We cant simply compare the total number of fatalities. We need to look at is whats called the 'case fatality rates'. Which places SARS, MERS and 2019-nCov in a far more deadly catagory than say the common flu virus.

SARS case fatalities I think were around 10%. The common flu case fatalies are around 0.1% . Yes the percentages maybe somewhat off but you get the idea
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Old 02-05-20, 03:00 PM   #169
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About informations on this Corona Virus.

We can fully believe what China tell our news media
or
We can believe what those none-main stream tells us.

In my opinion I say they are both wrong.

The death toll is between what China have told us and what those alt-media have said.

Then the question is

How many have actually died and how many have actually been infected

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Old 02-05-20, 03:35 PM   #170
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Chinese President Xi Jinping has been missing for days now

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/05/a...hnk/index.html

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Xi himself has not been seen for several days, missing from his usual place of prominence on the front page of the state-owned People's Daily newspaper and in the nightly newscast on state broadcaster CCTV.
This is weird, not only because a country's leader is normally front and center during a crisis, but because Xi typically dominates media coverage at the best of times, regardless of how seemingly routine his activities are. Since he came to power in 2012, the People's Daily especially has become known for running multiple headlines about Xi
Could this mean the Communist Party is tired of their leader (since 2012) or
does it mean they want to blame Wuhan's problems on lesser persons?
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Old 02-05-20, 10:22 PM   #171
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Conspiracy alert: Tencent may have accidentally leaked real data on Wuhan virus deaths

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594

Tencent briefly lists 154,023 infections and 24,589 deaths from Wuhan coronavirus

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s many experts question the veracity of China's statistics for the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak, Tencent over the weekend seems to have inadvertently released what is potentially the actual number of infections and deaths, which were astronomically higher than official figures.

On late Saturday evening (Feb. 1), Tencent, on its webpage titled "Epidemic Situation Tracker," showed confirmed cases of novel coronavirus (2019nCoV) in China as standing at 154,023, 10 times the official figure at the time. It listed the number of suspected cases as 79,808, four times the official figure.

The number of cured cases was only 269, well below the official number that day of 300. Most ominously, the death toll listed was 24,589, vastly higher than the 300 officially listed that day.

Moments later, Tencent updated the numbers to reflect the government's "official" numbers that day. Netizens noticed that Tencent has on at least three occasions posted extremely high numbers, only to quickly lower them to government-approved statistics.

Some are speculating that a coding problem could be causing the real "internal" data to accidentally appear. Others believe that someone behind the scenes is trying to leak the real numbers.
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Old 02-05-20, 10:26 PM   #172
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Conspiracy alert: Tencent may have accidentally leaked real data on Wuhan virus deaths

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594

Tencent briefly lists 154,023 infections and 24,589 deaths from Wuhan coronavirus
Couple of reports I've heard from acquaintances... one from a medico in Singapore, says at least 90K infected, and that was about a week ago.

Another went back to China for CNY, and says he won't be back any time soon. Populace have been herded into apartment blocks, with the doors barred shut behind them. Bodies in the streets, that have lain there for at least a week.
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Old 02-05-20, 10:50 PM   #173
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Couple of reports I've heard from acquaintances... one from a medico in Singapore, says at least 90K infected, and that was about a week ago.

Another went back to China for CNY, and says he won't be back any time soon. Populace have been herded into apartment blocks, with the doors barred shut behind them. Bodies in the streets, that have lain there for at least a week.
Yeah, there is a lot of buzz about Singapore recently.
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Yep. Doctors and nurses in China are saying anonymously (for fear of arrest) that the actual numbers are perhaps 10x higher than the official numbers, meaning up to 250,000 infected and 5,000 dead.

- Apparently crematoriums in Wuhan are running at full capacity 24/7.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/wor...g-247-21434630


- Mysterious thick 'fog' descends on Wuhan. Crematorium smoke?

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...-over-21426098


- Chinese government has ordered a funeral ban. Bodies must be incinerated immediately.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/wor...antly-21420935

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Old 02-06-20, 07:31 AM   #175
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Not me ... my time at sea was with healthy people

I see some kind of similarity here with the man that died in Hong Kong had only been in China for a few hours before he took at cruise in Japan. So he comes back tested positive and died in Hong Kong (which now has the nurses on strike) and I wondered if he had passed it on to the ships passengers.

Now there are two cruise ships in Japan with the same virus problems


Ten people aboard a quarantined cruise ship run by Doral-based Carnival have tested positive for coronavirus, including one American.

https://news.yahoo.com/10-people-tes...155659657.html



2nd cruise ship
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^ was already thinking of him, good to hear
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^ was already thinking of him, good to hear
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Chinese doctor Li Wenliang, one of the eight whistleblowers who tried to warn other medics of the #coronavirus outbreak but were reprimanded by local police, dies of coronavirus on Thursday in Wuhan, the Global Times has learned.
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All of this news is not good ... I believe that it is going to get a lot worse before it gets better, but the report of 25k dead does not compute.

I know they like to have funerals and you can't hide that many deaths from the relatives they wouldn't stand for it.

But what Traveller posted made me very sober ... they can't lie forever

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Apparently crematoriums in Wuhan are running at full capacity 24/7.

Mysterious thick 'fog' descends on Wuhan. Crematorium smoke?

Chinese government has ordered a funeral ban. Bodies must be incinerated immediately
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Reported on SKY News a few minutes ago he is not dead.





Too much bullcrap news and lies and harrdly any proper factual news. News agencies world wide are getting their jollies from this.
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