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Old 08-04-14, 01:22 PM   #1
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I want to know WHY it does takes about 5-6 or more to refuel and reload or rearm an American fighter Jet like the F-18F Superhornet.

I have search the internet for information and I can't find anything.

I really want to know why a modern American Fighter Jet need so many hours when our own JAS39 Gripen(Griffin) don't even need half the time*


* Since our last discussion in another thread I have been searching the internet for the same info I have in my head about the Swedish Airforce in english. The only English information I could find is from Wiki and I have posted an answer about loading time a.s.o from wiki in that discussion.

I hope there are some one who can provide me with information to why it takes so long.

I just want to know

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Old 08-04-14, 03:02 PM   #2
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The devs answered this (common) question in the Mega-FAQ, with a link to an old article.
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Old 08-04-14, 03:52 PM   #3
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The devs answered this (common) question in the Mega-FAQ, with a link to an old article.

Thank you for giving me these links which I have already read, they do not provide me with the information I seek

Technical information as such. If some of you do not know or it is a secret then I do understand it fully, but I just want to know why technically...


Here's an example I found on a homepage and it's about the french airforce

Can't remember every word
"it don't take long to hang two Exocet-missile under the wing on a...but it takes about three hours to get the onboard computer to accept the Exocet"

that made me wonder is or have the french airforce several different type of operation computersystem that doesn't work together very well and could it be that it is exactly the same problem with the American fighters.

Or should I just leave it there and say this is the way it is....

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Old 08-04-14, 05:09 PM   #4
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The aircraft ready time requirements are just arbitrary numbers and only represent someone's best guess. Everyone has their own opinion on what they should be. The only relevant factor here is that in games like Harpoon or Naval War Arctic Circle, you aren't force to accept someone else's perception of reality. If you don't agree with their numbers, you can always change it to something you find more suitable.

There are people who disagree with the ready times set forth within the Harpoon PlayersDB. They simply change them to 30 minutes or whatever suits them with the DB editor and then play the scenario. That option does not exist for MNO.
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Old 08-04-14, 05:31 PM   #5
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I do not question whether it is correct or not. I just wonder why it takes about 5-6 hours.

I have read about field personnel and pilots need for rest, but which Air Force has ONLY a few staff per plane, and just one pilot per flight ??

Could it be that the dev behind this great game do not know why technically?

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Old 08-04-14, 05:55 PM   #6
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You raise good points. The Harpoon PlayersDB has most strike aircraft set for 6 hour turn-around times. This is just a best guess. The number is only an approximation for the number of times I think the aircraft would fly in a day. It is nothing better than a rough guess.

Other folks have made up all kinds of justifications such as:

17 minutes to taxi
11 minutes to walk to car
02 minutes to take a piss
.2 minutes to shake off
.5 minutes to wash your hands
etc
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6 hours total

'Magically', it adds up to some pre-determined time, but the numbers are just pulled out of thin air - pure fabrications. Harpoon players also disagree with the PlayersDB ready times. They just go modify it to what they believe is more accurate. This is what CasoDB and WinstonDB did. They don't agree with the 6 hour delay and changed it to 30 minutes for their own pleasure. You can't do that with MNO.
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Old 08-05-14, 08:50 AM   #7
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The aircraft ready time requirements are just arbitrary numbers and only represent someone's best guess. Everyone has their own opinion on what they should be. The only relevant factor here is that in games like Harpoon or Naval War Arctic Circle, you aren't force to accept someone else's perception of reality. If you don't agree with their numbers, you can always change it to something you find more suitable.
LOL Herman is this supposed to be another one of your little anti-Command potshots?

Still angry for getting called out on your bullcrap - when you copied our (now outdated) Harpoon material and tried to steal the credit for it? Dude, systematically copying other people's work, label it as your 'own creation', and at the same time discrediting, stalking and harassing the original authors isn't cool. More here:

http://www.warfaresims.com/?cat=129

LOL when your hate campaign gets you slapped down and banned by moderators at one site you immediately move on to the next. It's like whack-a-mole.

Herman, how many days have passed since you were banned from a forum and had your posts and 'copycat' material removed and user deleted? Less than two weeks huh?

Oh and where did your stalker & trolling buddy go? The 'Milan Monster' dude? Haven't seen him in at least a few days.

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There are people who disagree with the ready times set forth within the Harpoon PlayersDB. They simply change them to 30 minutes or whatever suits them with the DB editor and then play the scenario. That option does not exist for MNO.
In fact it seems most people disagree with you. Wonder why

And what is MNO?
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Old 08-05-14, 01:08 PM   #8
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I'm not interested in that discussion you have with Herman I just want to know the technical stuff behind this 5-6 hour or more regarding refuel and reload or rearm a fighter jet.

I do NOT questioning whether it take 5-6 hour or more

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Old 08-05-14, 04:12 PM   #9
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LOL when your hate campaign gets you slapped down and banned by moderators at one site you immediately move on to the next. It's like whack-a-mole.
Thee told me that you posted some comments on Amazon.com about the review of "Command" I wrote for the site but I'm unable to find them. Do you have the links?

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