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Old 07-10-21, 11:09 AM   #1591
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What is this voting rights I hear of now and then on CNN. Can't remember if it is the GOP or the Dems who's against it. I understand it has something to do with some changes to these rights.

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Old 07-10-21, 11:46 AM   #1592
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Excellent article. Very insightful. If you're wondering why Trump supporters feel as they do this article does a great job of describing the feeling and does so from a fairly neutral standpoint.

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I'm not sure I buy that as neutral. At least the way the left gets described isn't how I feel at all plus I think it glosses the radical right aspect over and dwells on corporate media sins. Anyway good read.
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Old 07-10-21, 08:02 PM   #1593
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I'm not sure I buy that as neutral. At least the way the left gets described isn't how I feel at all plus I think it glosses the radical right aspect over and dwells on corporate media sins. Anyway good read.
It doesn't have to be neutral if it is valid.

Fact of the matter is that the US government from the President down to the lowliest elected official in the smallest town in the US is a corrupt disaster. Media, tech, and entertainment are all in bed with them. It'd be better to burn it all down and start over from just first principles in the Constitution.
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Old 07-10-21, 09:00 PM   #1594
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That's your opinion and I understand it, but I trust the right wing media less, and take main stream media with a large grain of salt. I think we argue from differing day to day realities over vast distances and locations. That's the USA and it makes it difficult to find the common ground.
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Old 07-10-21, 11:00 PM   #1595
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screw biden and the dems i was getting insulin for 250 under trump just bought some cost me 450
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screw biden and the dems i was getting insulin for 250 under trump just bought some cost me 450
So what changed and when and why did it change?
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So what changed and when and why did it change?
It changed in March of 2020 when when the Idiots in Washington and the Various States decided to quarantine the majority of the Country which tanked the economy. They then doubled down on their stupidity by spending money they didn't have to make up for putting people out of work. As a result, we (the people) now have to deal with inflation and future higher taxes because the Government not only borrowed money, but printed it to try and cover for their debacle. I think that pretty much covers the salient points, you kids can argue over the details.
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Sounds like an argument for single payer healthcare. Lean on the do nothing Republicans in the Senate.
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Sounds like an argument for single payer healthcare. Lean on the do nothing Republicans in the Senate.
“Do nothing Republicans” ? Still drinking the blue-anon koolaid.



Even in California when they had a ‘super majority’ refused to do it.

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A surefire way to screw something up is to put the Government in charge of it.
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A surefire way to screw something up is to put the Government in charge of it.
Our government organization is set up as a good thing, little slowing moving at times but it can achieve great things. What’s screwed up is we keep voting in the same people over and over again expecting different results. Definition of insanity?
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At least the way the left gets described isn't how I feel at all plus I think it glosses the radical right aspect over and dwells on corporate media sins. Anyway good read.

I sympathize with you. People are always telling me how I feel on any given subject based on my positions on totally unrelated subjects. For example if I am pro-gun then I must by default also be anti-abortion and pro-death penalty because those are considered to be default positions for "my side".
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^ and ^^ Fair enough.
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Questions About the FBI's Role in 1/6 Are Mocked Because the FBI Shapes Liberal Corporate Media

The FBI has been manufacturing and directing terror plots and criminal rings for decades. But now, reverence for security state agencies reigns.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/que...e-fbis-role-in


The questions raised by the Revolver News reporting, which none of these smug FBI defenders and guardians of the liberal consensus can answer, remain:

How is it remotely credible that the FBI did not have informants in these three groups that they have been identifying as major threats for years, especially given the reporting that the leader of the Proud Boys — conveniently arrested the day before January 6 — was an FBI informant in the past, along with the confirmed reporting that the FBI had multiple informants in the Michigan Three Percenters case?
Why are low-level protesters being charged with major crimes while the alleged organizers of this riot and the leaders of these groups have not been?
Why are enormous amounts of video surveillance footage from January 6 still being concealed?
What happened to the alleged planting of pipe bombs near the Capitol?
Why did the FBI not take more aggressive action given the once-denied but now-confirmed fact that the social media platform Parler sent the FBI advanced warnings of specific plots to use violence at the Capitol?


Nobody is claiming to know the answers to those questions, including Revolver News, Carlson, or anyone else. Instead, they are doing the work of actual journalists — pointing out the gaping holes in the public record about what we do and do not know about an event that is being exploited to launch a new domestic War on Terror, prompt massive new police and security state spending, and empower and justify new domestic surveillance and censorship authorities. Anyone not asking these questions or, worse, trying to delegitmize them, is a propagandist and has no business calling themselves a journalist.
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