Uboat vs Wolfpack? (maybe vs SH5 too?)

Lev306 · 05-04-19, 08:30 PM

Haven't subsimmed since SH4 (never got back into SH5 after the disappointing initial launch). Saw that this was on sale on steam but also there was another game called Wolfpack now. Just wondering what the denizen's of subsim thought about each game? Or should I go back and give SH5 another chance?

Whats the general consensus about these games? I'm just looking for a solid sub sim experience that has a good amount of submarine tactics involved. Thanks guys!

bstanko6 · 05-04-19, 09:17 PM

Completely different games, you can’t compare them. Wolfpack is a multiplayer U-boat game, and u boat is a Sims meets silent Hunter five game.

Lev306 · 05-04-19, 10:37 PM

Yeah totally get that, just wondering though in terms of gameplay experience if you had to pick one which would you prefer?

bstanko6 · 05-04-19, 10:56 PM

SH5

Hjalfnar · 05-05-19, 11:27 AM

UBOAT. I've been playing SH3 (not a lot, too old for me), SH4 (quite a bit with OpMonsoon Mod) and SH5 (Wolves of Steel mod). I prefer UBOAT over them all as it gives you the full WW2 "Das Boot" experience. The Silent Hunter games are all about stalking the enemy and sinking him, evading the retaliation, rince and repeat. This is fun and all, but I was always missing something, and that was crew interaction and immersion. With UBOAT you get a real feeling for what it's like to serve on a submarine, much more than with any Silent Hunter game. So yeah...it's quite buggy at the moment, not nearly finished, but for me already so much more my thing than Silent Hunter. I am not saying "better", but more my kind of game and more "uboatish" in my eyes.

Onkel Neal · 05-05-19, 11:30 AM

Both Uboat and Wolfpack are in early access by small dev teams, so it helps if players are supportive and patient. Both games have a lot to offer a good subsimmer.

Wolfpack is currently a co-op game where you & your crew manually do all the major operations in the boat: diving, observation, navigating, TDC set up and radio/sonar. No time compression, no warping. No AI crew to do your TDC for you.

We are working on a solo player option where you can assign the AI crew to change depth/speed/course so a single player can manage the boat alone. That will use a dash UI for the player to make these changes without requiring them to run all over the control room.

John Pancoast · 05-05-19, 03:19 PM

Great seeing new games coming. Options are a good thing, and Ubisoft could use some competition.

JU_88 · 05-05-19, 05:52 PM

Well honestly right now I find none of them are perfect for me :P
But I have more high hopes for Uboats and Wolf Packs future, as they are still being actively developed.

Uboat presently still has quite a few issues it still needs to work through, and more content to be added. but I have the most hope pegged on this one. and its most in line with what I'm after.

Wolf pack has no single player, so it doesn't really appeal to me personally as it stands, just watching people stream it is enough entertainment for me right now, but I'm keeping an eye on its future development.

SH5 on the other hand is coming up to 10 years old, and despite modders best efforts and in some cases vastly improving it beyond what was thought possible, its.. well, its not a 'dead horse' entirely but its still kind of 'stuck' with so many of its original limitations in some ways. it was so unfinished, abandoned and locked down - it just wasn't a great platform to move forward with I guess, where it is now is probably about as good as it gets.

By the time Uboat and Wolf pack are completed, I think they with both be in a much stronger position than SH5 was in 2010 when it received its 2nd and final patch. SH3 and 4 were really the franchises golden days.

05-04-19, 08:30 PM	#1
Lev306 Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 7 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Uboat vs Wolfpack? (maybe vs SH5 too?) Haven't subsimmed since SH4 (never got back into SH5 after the disappointing initial launch). Saw that this was on sale on steam but also there was another game called Wolfpack now. Just wondering what the denizen's of subsim thought about each game? Or should I go back and give SH5 another chance? Whats the general consensus about these games? I'm just looking for a solid sub sim experience that has a good amount of submarine tactics involved. Thanks guys!

05-04-19, 09:17 PM	#2
bstanko6 Admiral Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Murwik Naval Academy Posts: 2,122 Downloads: 390 Uploads: 13	Completely different games, you can’t compare them. Wolfpack is a multiplayer U-boat game, and u boat is a Sims meets silent Hunter five game. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] BSTANKO6'S SH5 NAVAL ACADEMY http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPbe...W2NArCA/videos DISCORD https://discord.gg/6tFeTSUmVc

05-04-19, 10:56 PM	#4
bstanko6 Admiral Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Murwik Naval Academy Posts: 2,122 Downloads: 390 Uploads: 13	SH5 __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] BSTANKO6'S SH5 NAVAL ACADEMY http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPbe...W2NArCA/videos DISCORD https://discord.gg/6tFeTSUmVc

05-05-19, 11:30 AM	#6
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,289 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	Both Uboat and Wolfpack are in early access by small dev teams, so it helps if players are supportive and patient. Both games have a lot to offer a good subsimmer. Wolfpack is currently a co-op game where you & your crew manually do all the major operations in the boat: diving, observation, navigating, TDC set up and radio/sonar. No time compression, no warping. No AI crew to do your TDC for you. We are working on a solo player option where you can assign the AI crew to change depth/speed/course so a single player can manage the boat alone. That will use a dash UI for the player to make these changes without requiring them to run all over the control room. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

05-05-19, 03:19 PM	#7
John Pancoast Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Minnysoda Posts: 3,189 Downloads: 490 Uploads: 4	Great seeing new games coming. Options are a good thing, and Ubisoft could use some competition. __________________ "Realistic" is not always GAME-GOOD." - Wave Skipper

05-04-19, 10:37 PM	#3
Lev306 Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 7 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Yeah totally get that, just wondering though in terms of gameplay experience if you had to pick one which would you prefer?

05-05-19, 11:27 AM	#5
Hjalfnar Torpedoman Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 113 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	UBOAT. I've been playing SH3 (not a lot, too old for me), SH4 (quite a bit with OpMonsoon Mod) and SH5 (Wolves of Steel mod). I prefer UBOAT over them all as it gives you the full WW2 "Das Boot" experience. The Silent Hunter games are all about stalking the enemy and sinking him, evading the retaliation, rince and repeat. This is fun and all, but I was always missing something, and that was crew interaction and immersion. With UBOAT you get a real feeling for what it's like to serve on a submarine, much more than with any Silent Hunter game. So yeah...it's quite buggy at the moment, not nearly finished, but for me already so much more my thing than Silent Hunter. I am not saying "better", but more my kind of game and more "uboatish" in my eyes.

05-05-19, 05:52 PM	#8
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,727 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Well honestly right now I find none of them are perfect for me :P But I have more high hopes for Uboats and Wolf Packs future, as they are still being actively developed. Uboat presently still has quite a few issues it still needs to work through, and more content to be added. but I have the most hope pegged on this one. and its most in line with what I'm after. Wolf pack has no single player, so it doesn't really appeal to me personally as it stands, just watching people stream it is enough entertainment for me right now, but I'm keeping an eye on its future development. SH5 on the other hand is coming up to 10 years old, and despite modders best efforts and in some cases vastly improving it beyond what was thought possible, its.. well, its not a 'dead horse' entirely but its still kind of 'stuck' with so many of its original limitations in some ways. it was so unfinished, abandoned and locked down - it just wasn't a great platform to move forward with I guess, where it is now is probably about as good as it gets. By the time Uboat and Wolf pack are completed, I think they with both be in a much stronger position than SH5 was in 2010 when it received its 2nd and final patch. SH3 and 4 were really the franchises golden days. Last edited by JU_88; 05-05-19 at 06:01 PM.