RACEROOM for starters - Page 2

Skybird · 05-02-22, 06:44 AM

Raceroom gets Interlagos "soon".

Skybird · 05-20-22, 10:15 AM

https://www.racedepartment.com/news/...nd-of-may.617/

All raceroom content free to access until end of May. Your opportunity to test all stuff out, namely tracks.

Threadfin · 05-23-22, 08:52 AM

I installed it this weekend and had a quick bash around Mid-Ohio in the Ferrari 488. Felt good. I had just driven the 458 at Mid-Ohio in rFactor the day before so it was a good comparison.

The main issue is few in our group run RaceRoom, but I've added to the quiver, making it racing sim number six in my rotation

Automobilista Motorsport Simulator 2 -- Probably my favorite right now. It's quick and easy to set up a server but what really sets it apart is the ability to add AI to the multiplayer races. With filling out a field with humans an impossibility, having AI to fill it out is great. A friend and I ran a couple races yesterday, first in Formula Trainers at Virginia International, then GT cars at the Daytona Road Course in a multi-class race. We set it up to have a full day-night cycle over a fairly short race and it was great. AMS2 is probably the most visceral of these sims, combining excellent force feedback and soundscape.

Assetto Corsa Competizione -- Second favorite. Great driving feel, focused on a single series, with excellent racing against the AI.

Assetto Corsa -- Don't drive it all that much, but my son loves drifting old 'Ruf's in it. It has the most dissimilar feeling FFB of all these sims, but stll a great one in it's own right.

rFactor 2 -- Another top sim, but a little older and feels like it. Good AI racing, lots of content -- much of it free -- and a great chassis setup side. I only run my own setups and rFactor is one of the best in terms of options and interface.

RaceRoom -- Too new to me to judge really, but in the brief time I drove it it felt really nice. I was big in to GTR and GTR 2 back in the day and this is the evolution of those sims (even if ACC feels like the actual spiritual successor)

F1 2021 -- Some slag it as simcade, but I love it. Slick presentation and excellent AI racing. The modes are fantastic, especially standard driver career and My Team. With the added two-player career mode the options here are really strong. The ability to talk to my pitwall is a game changer.

One of my friends is nudging me toward iRacing too, so I'll probably be adding that soon.

Here's some of yesterday's action. Formula Trainers at VIR

Me in my C8 at Daytona. Excuse the focus issues. It's an oddity with AMS2's photo mode

Skybird · 05-23-22, 11:10 AM

I must say that the aI in racertoom is one of the thigns were it shines. It varies with car classes a bit, but generlaly its my bechnmark in this remark. I have experienced incredible things happening with it, attacking, counter-attacking, -re-counterattacking endlessly, or going on the Nordschleife and fightign it out with the AI door to door and bumper to bumper over half of the lap - a nd no crahsing into me. I come from behind, I blitz beyong it on the one side, it disappears, I have no sight of it ij the mirrors, think its gone away already, and a seocnd later it hisses by on the other side.
It may nbe dependent on driver skill a bit, and I am no alien driver, not even a really fast driver, I focus on being a fighting but safe driver. For my style, the AI in Racveroom is a perfetc match that I prefer to open server any time, and even to what I have tried ( a bit) in closed server racing. It suits my demands and abilities perfectly.

ACC with RR's AI - that would be my dream. AC's and ACC's AI are reliably avoiding crashes, but are too pacifistic. Raceroom's AI is notoriously in a bad mood and evades no fight, also gives up not easily, but is not unfair. But it presses the palyer, if it can. Also, devs said the simulate osme psyhcological factors. If you hunt an aI car and press it very closely, and danc ein its mirrors, you may provoke the "stress" level going up and the AI then may make a mistake.

All my best AI experiences in racing have been done with RR's AI. Its even a little bit erratic, imperfect - just so to avoid getting the idea of dealing with a perfect computer AI, but racing against a human with the usual set of human flaws.

Track Bilsterberg is a secret tip for you to try.

Some touring or GT class of car, old mobiles. Not so much for open wheelers and space interceptors. The flow on that track is remarkable. In Germany it is known as the Nordschleife's little brother.

And Salzburg also has somethign in it. It just keeps you logging laps, you cannot stop.

Threadfin · 05-23-22, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Its even a little bit erratic, imperfect

Yes, this is key for me, and my number one gripe with both F1 2020/21 and to an extent in ACC is how AI-like the AI is. I want retirements, mistakes, chaos, crashes and cars running wide. Just a touch of all that, it makes for a more believable racing sim.

AMS2, rFactor, and I reckon RaceRoom on your testimony are all much more convincing in this regard. Cars wiggle, run wide, get out of shape and make contact, imparting the impression that they are piloted by humans.

I'll run a race in RR and see what I think. Can you put AI in MP races in RR?

Skybird · 06-01-22, 06:33 AM

Raceroom Summer Sale! The once-per-lifetime Premium Pack for 50€. Get ALL tracks, ALL cars, ALL skins for a steal, or fill the gaps in your collection if these are still huge.

https://forum.sector3studios.com/ind...8/#post-237407

Considering the quantity and quality of content, this is not just a steal - this is hilarious. Cheaper it never gets.

Threadfin · 06-04-22, 07:08 AM

Even though I had only picked this up in the recent free access promotion, and hadn't even driven it an hour total, I bought the premium pack, all the content. Somehow the premium pack was marked down farther for me, despite the fact I've not spent a dime on it previously, but it calculates the price based on the content you already have. So I guess I had some stuff that wasn't free before? No idea, but now I have it all.

It's a good sim, I like it fine, but I have a bit of an overflow in racing sims.

Assetto Corsa Competizione
Assetto Corsa
Automobilista
F1 2020/21
rFactor 2
RaceRoom
WRC 10
Dirt Rally 2.0

And all DLC

All but two of those titles were picked up in the past two months. Too many sims!

Skybird · 06-04-22, 12:50 PM

See, thats why I decided against AMS 1 and 2, F1 series, rF2, WRC series. I have tried rF2 many years ago, the first build they released for free as a demo, and back then I even did not like it, but I understand that it has changed a lot since then. Still, I do not try these titles, since I feel my wishes and needs all are being met by the sims I already use: AC, ACC, RR; DR2, Wreckfest, ETS2. I in no way imply or mean to say the others ar enot good, but I can only usefully play so and so many titles in a day, week, and not more. Thats why I reject the others, and currently am not even interested in other, new developments (Rennsport, for exmaple).

Do no underestimate Wreckfest, nobody! They had a terrible many years-long Early Access development drama and desaster show running, but what they finally gave birth to is a silver-shining, wonderful beauty of a swan. Very solid immersion, good driving physics (really, believe it, they are good in the meaning of beign believable and meetign the expectations), and the whole thing makes an incredible lot of fun. I sometimes drive in it and laughing loud half of the time, serious!

If there is one title that is missing in the list of yours and that you nevertheless want to try out despite your overdose in titles you already own, than this one: Wreckfest. You can have an amok frenzy with it, if that is what you want. You can also have a really solid and super-proper racing sim, if that is your poison. Or you get your fun from both worlds. Its up to you. I play it on the ultra-huge movie screen in a virtual cinema via my VR headset, and that way even this originally non-VR game becomes a completely new ballgame. Jawdropping!

Its the only racing game I care to play despite offering no true VR - usually I am the type of "no VR - no drive".

When you try RR, do not underestimate the apparently unspectacular, slow cars, I find them to make more fun thatn the super fast ones, or the open wheelers. Try for excmaple the Scirocco (think that is Group 4), or DTM 92, and then a less-known scandinavian rumble pit, AI, to start your personal preference tuning, set to lets say 96 or 97. Get ready to rumble! The AI varies a bit in competence with different car classes, thre superfast, super agile ones it finds more difficult to handle, with things like the GT3 and 4, the front wheelers and that speed range, it probably rumbles best.

Threadfin · 06-04-22, 01:09 PM

Yeah, maybe, I'll give it a look, but I really shouldn't keep adding to the pile.
You've mentioned ACC a few times and seem to like it?

I failed to entice you to join us in online racing, but what about a hotlap challenge?

Every few days I start a new one. The idea is to take any car on the track nominated for the event and post up your best lap time? Any car, any mode, any conditions. We started by also selecting the car for everyone to run, but since then I've made it open to allow more freedom.

I change the track every four or five days. interested? It's just for fun and personal improvement. Check it out here

SimHQ Hotlap Challenge

05-02-22, 06:44 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,578 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Raceroom gets Interlagos "soon". __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

05-20-22, 10:15 AM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,578 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	https://www.racedepartment.com/news/...nd-of-may.617/ All raceroom content free to access until end of May. Your opportunity to test all stuff out, namely tracks. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

05-23-22, 08:52 AM	#3
Threadfin Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,079 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	I installed it this weekend and had a quick bash around Mid-Ohio in the Ferrari 488. Felt good. I had just driven the 458 at Mid-Ohio in rFactor the day before so it was a good comparison. The main issue is few in our group run RaceRoom, but I've added to the quiver, making it racing sim number six in my rotation Automobilista Motorsport Simulator 2 -- Probably my favorite right now. It's quick and easy to set up a server but what really sets it apart is the ability to add AI to the multiplayer races. With filling out a field with humans an impossibility, having AI to fill it out is great. A friend and I ran a couple races yesterday, first in Formula Trainers at Virginia International, then GT cars at the Daytona Road Course in a multi-class race. We set it up to have a full day-night cycle over a fairly short race and it was great. AMS2 is probably the most visceral of these sims, combining excellent force feedback and soundscape. Assetto Corsa Competizione -- Second favorite. Great driving feel, focused on a single series, with excellent racing against the AI. Assetto Corsa -- Don't drive it all that much, but my son loves drifting old 'Ruf's in it. It has the most dissimilar feeling FFB of all these sims, but stll a great one in it's own right. rFactor 2 -- Another top sim, but a little older and feels like it. Good AI racing, lots of content -- much of it free -- and a great chassis setup side. I only run my own setups and rFactor is one of the best in terms of options and interface. RaceRoom -- Too new to me to judge really, but in the brief time I drove it it felt really nice. I was big in to GTR and GTR 2 back in the day and this is the evolution of those sims (even if ACC feels like the actual spiritual successor) F1 2021 -- Some slag it as simcade, but I love it. Slick presentation and excellent AI racing. The modes are fantastic, especially standard driver career and My Team. With the added two-player career mode the options here are really strong. The ability to talk to my pitwall is a game changer. One of my friends is nudging me toward iRacing too, so I'll probably be adding that soon. Here's some of yesterday's action. Formula Trainers at VIR Me in my C8 at Daytona. Excuse the focus issues. It's an oddity with AMS2's photo mode __________________ What? Behind the rabbit? Last edited by Threadfin; 05-23-22 at 09:05 AM.

05-23-22, 11:10 AM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,578 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I must say that the aI in racertoom is one of the thigns were it shines. It varies with car classes a bit, but generlaly its my bechnmark in this remark. I have experienced incredible things happening with it, attacking, counter-attacking, -re-counterattacking endlessly, or going on the Nordschleife and fightign it out with the AI door to door and bumper to bumper over half of the lap - a nd no crahsing into me. I come from behind, I blitz beyong it on the one side, it disappears, I have no sight of it ij the mirrors, think its gone away already, and a seocnd later it hisses by on the other side. It may nbe dependent on driver skill a bit, and I am no alien driver, not even a really fast driver, I focus on being a fighting but safe driver. For my style, the AI in Racveroom is a perfetc match that I prefer to open server any time, and even to what I have tried ( a bit) in closed server racing. It suits my demands and abilities perfectly. ACC with RR's AI - that would be my dream. AC's and ACC's AI are reliably avoiding crashes, but are too pacifistic. Raceroom's AI is notoriously in a bad mood and evades no fight, also gives up not easily, but is not unfair. But it presses the palyer, if it can. Also, devs said the simulate osme psyhcological factors. If you hunt an aI car and press it very closely, and danc ein its mirrors, you may provoke the "stress" level going up and the AI then may make a mistake. All my best AI experiences in racing have been done with RR's AI. Its even a little bit erratic, imperfect - just so to avoid getting the idea of dealing with a perfect computer AI, but racing against a human with the usual set of human flaws. Track Bilsterberg is a secret tip for you to try. Some touring or GT class of car, old mobiles. Not so much for open wheelers and space interceptors. The flow on that track is remarkable. In Germany it is known as the Nordschleife's little brother. And Salzburg also has somethign in it. It just keeps you logging laps, you cannot stop. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-01-22, 06:33 AM	#6
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,578 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Raceroom Summer Sale! The once-per-lifetime Premium Pack for 50€. Get ALL tracks, ALL cars, ALL skins for a steal, or fill the gaps in your collection if these are still huge. https://forum.sector3studios.com/ind...8/#post-237407 Considering the quantity and quality of content, this is not just a steal - this is hilarious. Cheaper it never gets. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 06-01-22 at 06:44 AM.

06-04-22, 07:08 AM	#7
Threadfin Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,079 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Even though I had only picked this up in the recent free access promotion, and hadn't even driven it an hour total, I bought the premium pack, all the content. Somehow the premium pack was marked down farther for me, despite the fact I've not spent a dime on it previously, but it calculates the price based on the content you already have. So I guess I had some stuff that wasn't free before? No idea, but now I have it all. It's a good sim, I like it fine, but I have a bit of an overflow in racing sims. Assetto Corsa Competizione Assetto Corsa Automobilista F1 2020/21 rFactor 2 RaceRoom WRC 10 Dirt Rally 2.0 And all DLC All but two of those titles were picked up in the past two months. Too many sims! __________________ What? Behind the rabbit?

06-04-22, 12:50 PM	#8
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,578 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	See, thats why I decided against AMS 1 and 2, F1 series, rF2, WRC series. I have tried rF2 many years ago, the first build they released for free as a demo, and back then I even did not like it, but I understand that it has changed a lot since then. Still, I do not try these titles, since I feel my wishes and needs all are being met by the sims I already use: AC, ACC, RR; DR2, Wreckfest, ETS2. I in no way imply or mean to say the others ar enot good, but I can only usefully play so and so many titles in a day, week, and not more. Thats why I reject the others, and currently am not even interested in other, new developments (Rennsport, for exmaple). Do no underestimate Wreckfest, nobody! They had a terrible many years-long Early Access development drama and desaster show running, but what they finally gave birth to is a silver-shining, wonderful beauty of a swan. Very solid immersion, good driving physics (really, believe it, they are good in the meaning of beign believable and meetign the expectations), and the whole thing makes an incredible lot of fun. I sometimes drive in it and laughing loud half of the time, serious! If there is one title that is missing in the list of yours and that you nevertheless want to try out despite your overdose in titles you already own, than this one: Wreckfest. You can have an amok frenzy with it, if that is what you want. You can also have a really solid and super-proper racing sim, if that is your poison. Or you get your fun from both worlds. Its up to you. I play it on the ultra-huge movie screen in a virtual cinema via my VR headset, and that way even this originally non-VR game becomes a completely new ballgame. Jawdropping! Its the only racing game I care to play despite offering no true VR - usually I am the type of "no VR - no drive". When you try RR, do not underestimate the apparently unspectacular, slow cars, I find them to make more fun thatn the super fast ones, or the open wheelers. Try for excmaple the Scirocco (think that is Group 4), or DTM 92, and then a less-known scandinavian rumble pit, AI, to start your personal preference tuning, set to lets say 96 or 97. Get ready to rumble! The AI varies a bit in competence with different car classes, thre superfast, super agile ones it finds more difficult to handle, with things like the GT3 and 4, the front wheelers and that speed range, it probably rumbles best. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 06-04-22 at 01:01 PM.

06-04-22, 01:09 PM	#9
Threadfin Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,079 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Yeah, maybe, I'll give it a look, but I really shouldn't keep adding to the pile. You've mentioned ACC a few times and seem to like it? I failed to entice you to join us in online racing, but what about a hotlap challenge? Every few days I start a new one. The idea is to take any car on the track nominated for the event and post up your best lap time? Any car, any mode, any conditions. We started by also selecting the car for everyone to run, but since then I've made it open to allow more freedom. I change the track every four or five days. interested? It's just for fun and personal improvement. Check it out here SimHQ Hotlap Challenge __________________ What? Behind the rabbit?