US Politics Thread 2016-2020 - Page 549

ikalugin · 12-10-19, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by u crank

So predictable.

Also predictable, House will vote for impeachment.

Also predictable, Senate will vote to acquit.

I'm losing interest fast.

Who knows, maybe it would tank the US house of representatives vote due to moderate DEMs swinging. Now that would be amusing.

Aktungbby · 12-10-19, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by POLITICAL SAVANT(ME)

Nah; so far all the Democrat parlimentary harrassment leads to boring smoke and 'quid pro quo' does not add up to the necessary 'high crime and misdemeanor'. Like previous impeachees, Andrew Johnson and Clinton, the motion will fail to carry...Moreover, cooler heads will prevail; does anyone really want VP Pence to take over!!??

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Originally Posted by u crank

So predictable.

Also predictable, House will vote for impeachment.

Also predictable, Senate will vote to acquit.

I'm losing interest fast.

PRECISELY:

mapuc · 12-10-19, 11:51 AM

A question to my American friends

From what you have read and heard during this progress, incl. the hearing.

Are you convinced he is:

1. Guilty ?

or he is:

2. Not Guilty ?

I'm not interested in lots of links, but what you are personally convinced he is.

Markus

Bilge_Rat · 12-10-19, 11:51 AM

what a joke:"abuse of power" and "obstruction of congress".

the Dems are no longer even pretending they have any proof of any sort of crime.

The only question now is how many Dem congressmen or senators will defect and vote against this farce.

u crank · 12-10-19, 12:43 PM

This should be about accountability but it isn't. The main characters in this comedy, Pelosi, Schiff and Nadler are all in super safe blue districts. Hell you could duct tape a banana to a wall, call it a Democrat and it would get elected. The members who may pay the price for this are the ones who won in 2018 in red leaning districts.

I'm sure Nancy is praying for them.

Rockstar · 12-10-19, 12:49 PM

Rep. Jim Jordan tweeted during the hearing: “We don’t get to hear from @RepAdamSchiff today. Under Nadler’s rules, 4 hours of today’s impeachment hearing will be staff asking staff questions. Dems want to use unelected staff to remove a duly-elected President, none of whom are directly accountable to the people.”

Rockstar · 12-10-19, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

A question to my American friends

From what you have read and heard during this progress, incl. the hearing.

Are you convinced he is:

1. Guilty ?

or he is:

2. Not Guilty ?

I'm not interested in lots of links, but what you are personally convinced he is.

Markus

I'm convinced it's a purely political show right down the party line with no regard to whats fact, fiction, guilt or innocence. IMO its the culmination of calls for impeachment which began in 2016. Its the pissing away of my tax money on investigation after investigation by career politicians for their own gain and that of their beloved party.

Anything to keep the masses from recognizing and participating in far more pressing issues like the direction our economy is taking as the FED pumps hundreds of billions of dollars into it trying to keep it afloat. That chime app only works if you have a job.

Rockstar · 12-10-19, 01:17 PM

Meanwhile its business as usual for the rich kid crackhead and his dad

Rockstar · 12-10-19, 02:14 PM

like I said earlier. Talk isn't isnt about the merits of the case or dividing fact from fiction. Its about elections and how the big show can help or hinder political objectives.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...achment-080311

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The idea of censure, according to the lawmakers, is to offer a competing alternative to impeachment that could attract at least some Republican support on the floor. It would also help Democrats avoid a lengthy impeachment trial in the Senate, which some in this group fear could tilt public opinion toward the GOP in the final months before the 2020 election.

you damn straight it could

Bilge_Rat · 12-10-19, 02:58 PM

"censure" is being floated by vulnerable House Democrats, but based on my reading, Republicans have no interest in going that way which is why it does not seem to be going anywhere.

I would have thought a censure motion was the easiest way to get out of this mess, but seems the GOP is calculating that acquittal in the senate is better for Trump politically.

August · 12-10-19, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

"censure" is being floated by vulnerable House Democrats, but based on my reading, Republicans have no interest in going that way which is why it does not seem to be going anywhere.

I would have thought a censure motion was the easiest way to get out of this mess, but seems the GOP is calculating that acquittal in the senate is better for Trump politically.

I am pretty sure that this won't be the Democrats last shot at removing Trump from office before the upcoming election.

JU_88 · 12-10-19, 04:32 PM

personal prediction, Trump wins 2020 and isn't removed by impeachment.

Democrat government in power for 2024.
there.

August · 12-10-19, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JU_88

personal prediction, Trump wins 2020 and isn't removed by impeachment.

Democrat government in power for 2024.
there.

Both branches of Congress and the Executive? You know a likely early indicator of that happening would be if the Senate flips Dem in 2022.

eddie · 12-10-19, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

Meanwhile its business as usual for the rich kid crackhead and his dad

As compared to those 2 bastid sons Trump has,lol

August · 12-10-19, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie

As compared to those 2 bastid sons Trump has,lol

Way to stay classy eddie!

12-10-19, 11:51 AM	#8224
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,793 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	what a joke:"abuse of power" and "obstruction of congress". the Dems are no longer even pretending they have any proof of any sort of crime. The only question now is how many Dem congressmen or senators will defect and vote against this farce. __________________

12-10-19, 12:43 PM	#8225
u crank Old enough to know better Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Prince Edward Island Posts: 11,560 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	This should be about accountability but it isn't. The main characters in this comedy, Pelosi, Schiff and Nadler are all in super safe blue districts. Hell you could duct tape a banana to a wall, call it a Democrat and it would get elected. The members who may pay the price for this are the ones who won in 2018 in red leaning districts. I'm sure Nancy is praying for them. __________________ “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke

12-10-19, 12:49 PM	#8226
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,859 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Rep. Jim Jordan tweeted during the hearing: “We don’t get to hear from @RepAdamSchiff today. Under Nadler’s rules, 4 hours of today’s impeachment hearing will be staff asking staff questions. Dems want to use unelected staff to remove a duly-elected President, none of whom are directly accountable to the people.” __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time. Last edited by Rockstar; 12-10-19 at 12:58 PM.

12-10-19, 01:17 PM	#8228
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,859 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Meanwhile its business as usual for the rich kid crackhead and his dad __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time. Last edited by Rockstar; 12-10-19 at 01:56 PM.

12-10-19, 02:58 PM	#8230
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,793 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	"censure" is being floated by vulnerable House Democrats, but based on my reading, Republicans have no interest in going that way which is why it does not seem to be going anywhere. I would have thought a censure motion was the easiest way to get out of this mess, but seems the GOP is calculating that acquittal in the senate is better for Trump politically. __________________

12-10-19, 11:51 AM	#8223
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,919 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	A question to my American friends From what you have read and heard during this progress, incl. the hearing. Are you convinced he is: 1. Guilty ? or he is: 2. Not Guilty ? I'm not interested in lots of links, but what you are personally convinced he is. Markus

12-10-19, 04:32 PM	#8232
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,727 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	personal prediction, Trump wins 2020 and isn't removed by impeachment. Democrat government in power for 2024. there.