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Old 05-20-20, 05:09 AM   #11191
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Junkers Ju-86?
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Old 05-20-20, 07:34 AM   #11192
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^ I posted that yesterday but changed it to the Japanese aircraft because I couldn't find any sources saying it was flown by anyone other than Germany, at least during wartime.

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Old 05-20-20, 09:18 AM   #11193
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@the beast: Yes, African.
SOUTH AFRICAN VENTURA V BOMBER? OR PV1 VENTURA?
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Old 05-20-20, 09:32 AM   #11194
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Junkers Ju-86?
Yep, that is it
It was an often exported type before the war, as a bomber and civilian version with and without long nose, with or without glass front; amongst other countries also to South Africa. The K- type shown here was equipped with Pratt&Whitney engines for the South African Air Force, which will have thrown off some here - the originally used Diesel engines look completely different.
I had just posted the video about the Ju 86 high altitude plane version in the "interesting video" thread, but i admit this looks way different.



Here with different in-line engines:


The story connected to this special plane is that Jan Smuts on his way to North Africa in 1940 was almost shot down in it, by what they call "friendly fire".

"Prior to the war, Oswald Pirow was the Defence Minister under the Hertzog regime, he was also a key player in the establishment of South African Airways (SAA). As an ardent supporter of Nazi Germany and the Nazi cause himself he had a keen relationship with Nazi Germany. He toured Germany on military inspections, also buying German military hardware on a number of occasions. As a result both SAA and the SAAF at the beginning of the war found themselves equipped with German-made aircraft."

"On 31 October 1940 General Smuts’ party left at sunrise, not in the Lodestar they arrived in but in a Junkers 86 bomber of the South African Air Force piloted by Captain D. B. Raubenheimer and accompanied by a second Junkers 86 carrying war correspondents, the formation also included a Dragon Rapide and an escort of two Hurricanes.
The aircrafts were making straight for Garba Tulla but changed course because General Smuts had been specially asked to fly over Archer’s Post airfield, headquarters of No. 11 Bomber Squadron, SAAF."


"Later on 31 October 1940 the South African Air Force Ju-86 bomber/transports carrying the VIP contingent did not follow specified procedures to identify themselves as ‘friendly’, as they passed over Archer’s Post. The formation did not signal the specified recognition signal, which consisted of lowering the undercarriage and waggling the wings.
Under the impression that the formation was Italian, three SAAF Hawker Furies of 2 Squadron’s ‘D’ detachment, led by Captain J. Meaker, were scrambled and intercepted the formation."


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Old 05-20-20, 09:58 AM   #11195
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Over to u crank, well done . How did you find it?
It's magic!

Actually after the clue that it was African I started googling South African WW2 stuff and the first thing that came up was the Jan Smuts story with that picture.

That was a good one and I never realized that the allies were flying German aircraft.

I'll put something up shortly.
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Ok guys what might this be?

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is it a big building?
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It's magic!

Actually after the clue that it was African I started googling South African WW2 stuff and the first thing that came up was the Jan Smuts story with that picture.

That was a good one and I never realized that the allies were flying German aircraft.

I'll put something up shortly.
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is it a big building?
It is a building.
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Solar power related?
I don't believe so.
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Yes.
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