SpaceX does it again!!! + Rolling out Starlink - Page 21

Skybird · 04-20-23, 09:05 AM

"#!$?;§*...!!!"

mapuc · 04-20-23, 09:19 AM

Through failure we learn

Markus

Skybird · 04-20-23, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Through failure we learn

Markus

They rate it as a success indeed.

Kirk however is not happy.

Onkel Neal · 04-20-23, 09:53 AM

Ha, jeez, expensive way to succeed.

MGR1 · 04-20-23, 11:41 AM

"Rapid unscheduled disassembly", I believe they've termed it.

Mike.

Platapus · 04-20-23, 04:09 PM

They delayed the destruction in order to collect the most data.

That's how rocket science works.

Skybird · 04-20-23, 06:48 PM

I would not mind if next time they delay it until it is over the Kremlin.

Jimbuna · 04-21-23, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

I would not mind if next time they delay it until it is over the Kremlin.

Dowly · 04-21-23, 06:34 AM

The two things they wanted to test was if it could take off (it did) and if it would damage the launch pad (it did). AFAIK, none of the craft was to be recovered in any case.

Onkel Neal · 04-21-23, 10:14 AM

Hmmm... everyone already knew that the pad would send out tons of high velocity concrete fragments in its current config. and damage the booster and engines, that was widely discussed a couple years ago. I guess not being a rocket scientist, I don't get conducting a test that you know will result in a premature failure. If the pad had been constructed properly, the first test flight might have made it to Hawaii, and they would have learned a lot more.

Skybird · 04-21-23, 10:53 AM

Well, maybe Musk simply has too much money and wants to dump some.

Von Due · 04-21-23, 12:05 PM

Sometimes, learning exactly how failures occur is what is needed to prevent them from happening when it reallty matters. If the data is good and plentyful, then that is very valuable.

Dowly · 04-21-23, 02:09 PM

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Sometimes, learning exactly how failures occur is what is needed to prevent them from happening when it reallty matters. If the data is good and plentyful, then that is very valuable.

Indeed. I am a bit disappointed by how this launch is viewed. That the thing - the largest rocket ever built and launched by humanity - managed to get airborne is a worthy achievement alone. Falcon 9 crashed multiple times, before they got it right. The fact that Starship could lift off with 5 of the 36 boosters offline is a good thing. It was never meant to reach Hawaii, it was just the flight plan IF it would even lift off. All in all, they got what they asked; the Starship could lift off.

Onkel Neal · 04-23-23, 07:41 AM

Well, the Musk doctrine has been successful, people will cheer when a rocket goes 40km and blows up. Maybe he just wanted to get rid of the thing and it was cheaper to blow it up over the Gulf than to demo it in the yard?

I'm pretty surprised no one is raising hell about the detrimental impact this has on global warming and the environment.

But to be fair, SpaceX does have a great track record of getting the Falcon 9 and Heavy working very well, so they know what they are doing.

Skybird · 05-01-23, 03:36 PM

Progress is different.

https://think--again-org.translate.g..._x_tr_pto=wapp

I am not certain to what degree I agree, but with quite some of his view I do agree for sure.

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MGR1 Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland, United Kingdom Posts: 957 Downloads: 252 Uploads: 0	"Rapid unscheduled disassembly", I believe they've termed it. Mike. __________________ "I am the battleship Jean Bart. This name originates from a certain 'respected' privateer... Yes? You want to know what privateers are? Hmph, they are pirates that rob openly under the banner of their country." Jean Bart from the mobile game Azur Lane.

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 18,960 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	They delayed the destruction in order to collect the most data. That's how rocket science works. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,517 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I would not mind if next time they delay it until it is over the Kremlin. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,005 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	The two things they wanted to test was if it could take off (it did) and if it would damage the launch pad (it did). AFAIK, none of the craft was to be recovered in any case.

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Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,289 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	Hmmm... everyone already knew that the pad would send out tons of high velocity concrete fragments in its current config. and damage the booster and engines, that was widely discussed a couple years ago. I guess not being a rocket scientist, I don't get conducting a test that you know will result in a premature failure. If the pad had been constructed properly, the first test flight might have made it to Hawaii, and they would have learned a lot more. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web Last edited by Onkel Neal; 04-21-23 at 10:23 AM.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,517 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Well, maybe Musk simply has too much money and wants to dump some. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Von Due Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,660 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	Sometimes, learning exactly how failures occur is what is needed to prevent them from happening when it reallty matters. If the data is good and plentyful, then that is very valuable.

04-23-23, 07:41 AM	#314
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,289 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	Well, the Musk doctrine has been successful, people will cheer when a rocket goes 40km and blows up. Maybe he just wanted to get rid of the thing and it was cheaper to blow it up over the Gulf than to demo it in the yard? I'm pretty surprised no one is raising hell about the detrimental impact this has on global warming and the environment. But to be fair, SpaceX does have a great track record of getting the Falcon 9 and Heavy working very well, so they know what they are doing. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,517 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Progress is different. https://think--again-org.translate.g..._x_tr_pto=wapp I am not certain to what degree I agree, but with quite some of his view I do agree for sure. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.