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Old 01-10-21, 05:43 AM   #13456
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That ^ remains to be seen, but there is certainly a lot of hope on the continent that it should cost them dearly, as you just have illustrated yourself. Serves them right!



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Old 01-10-21, 06:44 AM   #13457
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He did not said it should, but that it will cost them. You do not need to be Nostradamus to see this happening.

B.t.w. we can assume that those nationalist brexit videos posted here all the time are not being initiated in the UK.
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Old 01-10-21, 06:55 AM   #13458
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And I said that the continental attitude is that it should cost them, gefälligst. Punishment must be. The EU wants that it costs them. The bitterer, the more satisfying. Hopefully Brexit will not be a success, and makes them crawling back on their knees under the eU patronizing umbrella. Like the French demand, hope for, and have said.

Britain should, has to, hopefully will suffer. Thats the hope of the eU. It was never different. Its what their whole negotiation strategy was basing on: to make them suffer whereever possible.



We will see who was more successful: the eU in eforcing much desired punsihment, Britain in evading and preventing that. Covid certainly has mixed the cards new. Still, the vaccination strategy of the Brits work much better thna that of Super-Uschi, this Francophile intellectual vacuum from Germany.


The videos posted by Jim and the article I recently linked, certainly illustrate the stark and contradicting contrast in perception on both sides of the channel.
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More chance of getting bit on the bottom by a cabbage.

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Old 01-10-21, 12:06 PM   #13461
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I think those who are pro-EU want to see Britain going down.
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Those who are anti-EU hopes Britain will gain from this divorce.

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Well Markus, of course everyone is entitled to their own view. Here is mine: I'd like to see Britain and the EU establish a new form of partnership for mutual benefit. This doesn't only encompass economic aspects like those dealt with in the trade treaty. In fact the economic side of our future relationship is already predetermined: Both sides will lose, the economical weaker side will lose more and the younger generation will suffer the most.

My honest belief is that there are more things we have in common than things that separate us. The biggest problem at the moment is the loudest on both sides being those who are trying to bring us apart.
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Old 01-10-21, 03:03 PM   #13463
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I think those who are pro-EU want to see Britain going down.
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Those who are anti-EU hopes Britain will gain from this divorce.

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No one would expect much love if he got slapped in the face, called a tyranny, said goodbye with "17 million f'offs" or "We hate you"?
I take it the 27 nations have been astonishingly reluctant, most probaby because they know that despite propaganda bile and medieval nationalism the majority of England does not want a brexit.

You may know it was England that wanted to go, and Wales. Scotland voted against, as did Ireland. And in England it was the fat cats and elder, well-off who voted for brexit, not the young ones. The majority was scarce enough for such a decision, a lot of younger did not vote, it was not a refefendum and so on.

Whatever you make of all that, the "small number of issues" will not simply vanish because Farage or Rupert Murdoch, or some obscure internet site, tells you so.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...e-b758997.html
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re Markus: Dominic Frisby, the comedian with the "17 million f'offs" to the EU can't explain why he voted to leave the EU

From 2:00 on



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^This video brought back some sad memories. But we need to look ahead and wipe the slate clean. There is a lot of homework to be done on the EU side. The Brits will sooner or later discover sovereignty gives you a nice warm feeling but does not pay the bills. But first of all this goddamn virus has to be defeated.
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