US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by MaDef

once they get power politicians are loath to give it up.

It doesn't help that "we've" now set a bad precedent by giving up our rights so easily.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by em2nought

It doesn't help that "we've" now set a bad precedent by giving up our rights so easily.

When did we give up our right to vote?

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

When did we give up our right to vote?

what kind of non-sequitur is that?

[Skybird]

Without choices voting is useless.


And if so, what then? Hobbits and Orks. Just Hobbits and Orks.


https://kollinfields.com/2019/12/12/...nst-democracy/

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Without choices voting is useless.


And if so, what then? Hobbits and Orks. Just Hobbits and Orks.


https://kollinfields.com/2019/12/12/...nst-democracy/

From the linked article ...

Democracy is a tool, like a hammer, Brennan repeats. It’s only as good as its ability to achieve results. “If we can find a better hammer,” he writes, “we should use it” (11). Brennan’s recommendation is epistocracy: the rule of the knowledgeable.

From Wikionary...

epistocracy

1.Rule by citizens with political knowledge, or a proposed political system which concentrates political power in citizens according to their knowledge of public affairs, whether by distributing votes to citizens by their knowledge of political matters or some other means, as contrasted with democracy, in which the right to vote and political power are theoretically equally shared among all citizens.

2.A government run by citizens with political knowledge.

[mapuc]

Found this picture, with this awful text.

I'm very uncertain if the text in this picture is breaking some of our rules in this forum. If it does, then dear Moderators feel free to erase it.

Talking about generalising, This is typical for some voters on both side.
They put every opponent into one bowl

[Bilge_Rat]

Winston Churchill once said "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

applies perfectly well to 2020 when many potential voters get their "news" from Facebook...

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

Winston Churchill once said "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

applies perfectly well to 2020 when many potential voters get their "news" from Facebook...

I have for month, if not years tried to convince my FB friends that a Danish forum would be a lot better to have when we discuss.
I have even given some fb-friends link to this forum, but they weren't interest because they wasn't allowed to use ugly words here

My friends is addicted to FB.

What about me then ?

Let me put it this way.
FB is unavailable, there's our forum and games to play.
Subsim is unavailable-A panic start to arise inside me.

Markus

[August]

Philadelphia Dem elections judge admits taking bribes to inflate vote counts


A former Democratic elections judge has pleaded guilty for his role in accepting bribes to cast fraudulent ballots and certifying false voting results in primary elections in Philadelphia, prosecutors announced Thursday.
Domenick J. Demuro, 73, admitted that while serving as an elected municipal Judge of Elections, he accepted bribes in exchange for adding ballots for certain candidates on the voting machines in his jurisdiction and for including the fraudulent ballots in official tallies during the 2014, 2015 and 2016 primary elections in Philadelphia.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/philadelp...te-vote-counts

[Reece]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

many potential voters get their "news" from Facebook...

Yeh that's pretty bad, they should be viewing Twitter!

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by August

https://www.foxnews.com/us/philadelp...te-vote-counts

Not much has changed over the years, Lyndon Johnson got caught doing the same thing back in 1948 while running for the senate, and then went on to become President, go figure.

[Rockstar]

I dont know if I should laugh or cry



https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...-me-and-trump/

Joe Biden said in a Friday interview that a black voter who can’t decide between him and President Trump in the 2020 elections isn’t really black.
“If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black,” Biden told radio DJ Charlamagne tha God on The Breakfast Club. 17:15 mark

[MaDef]

LOL, there was a reason Obama hid him from the media for 8 years.

[August]

Obama’s political police

Liars, leakers and lawyers

Leonard Toboroff


...



Winston Churchill once noted that socialist regimes or despots can only retain power if they suppress dissent or even crush discontent by using a political police. Consider the OGPU and then the KGB of the Soviets, or Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, or the odious apparatus of the Nazi Gestapo. The dazzling array of Obama’s subordinates in the executive branch, agencies and bureaucracies, and his allies in Congress and the media, not forgetting ‘cleanup man’ Mueller amounts in functional terms to an odious apparatus, a political police in America.

https://spectator.us/obama-political-police/

[u crank]

Originally Posted by August

https://spectator.us/obama-political-police/

The other story here is the way this will be handled by the left wing media. The New York Times and the Washington Post won a Pulitzer Prize in 2018 for "deeply sourced, relentlessly reported coverage in the public interest that dramatically furthered the nation’s understanding of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and its connections to the Trump campaign, the President-elect’s transition team and his eventual administration."

Can you imagine for even a moment what they would find out if they put the same effort into investigating the Obama administration's misdeeds.

Don't hold your breath though. Instead you will see a very concerted effort by them and CNN/MSNBC to defend Obama and all of his fellow travellers, especially Joe Biden. Maybe they will win another Pulitzer for their 'deeply sourced, relentlessly reporting'.