An idea from an old-timer here

[SilentOtto]

Hi all!

It's been quite long since I was around, when sh5 came out my pc was not up to the needed specs, and like many of you I was a bit disappointed with sh4, and even more with sh5 so I have quit playing sub sims for a few years.

From time to time I log into subsim to see what you guys are up to. Today I read about this $&%$"(%$% project of silent hunter online, which as most of you I can't loathe more. This is exactly the opposite of what we wish!

So I was thinking, and maybe you have already talked about this idea, but have you thought about starting a project, and I don't mean any personal projects (from what I've seen most of those have slowly died), I mean, something like a kickstarter project.

For those not in the know, kickstarter is a fundraising system to start any kind of projects, from music festival to books, music or software. Basically the thing is that people sign up and compromise to pay an amount to fund the project. When the project collects the needed money (and not before!) then all of the members pay that amount and the project can start.

I have been a supporter of a few small kickstarter projects which worked very well, like comic books. Maybe, we hardcore subsim fans could start a project like that, hire some software developers, graphic and sound people and get something going.

This goes to Neal and the other old salts, you remember, 2002, when you hired that guy to fix SH2 online multiplayer? It sucked as it was released, but we (I paid too! ) hired a guy who fixed it, and made it work as we wanted it to.

Well, one can dream, but I think this might be the only way for us to get what we want. Most software companies are going into this "free" to play games, where they suck from you more money than they ever thought they could, and we are a niche market... but now there are tools that might allow us to do it.

Also, the awesome community here has always released amazing stuff, most of the time suffering to work with no help at all from the developer, and releasing mods that raised the quality of the sims to an incredible level. So we can count that many many parts of the sim could be done here, in-the-house.

So what do you think? Am I dreaming? Are you already thinking of something like this?


PS I post here because I think this new ubisoft idea shows that we will probably never again get the kind of sim we want! If you think this is crazy, pls silently discard this old sub freak suggestion.

Godspeed to all!

(i thought better to ask for the post to be moved here!)

[Hinrich Schwab]

Kickstarter worked for Al Lowe and Leisure Suit Larry (another franchise ruined by corporate stupidity), I do not see any reason why not. I would donate. A Subsim.com brand simulation would be just the thing to slap Ubisoft in the face. Not only that, it would introduce something that would certainly get their attention; competition.

[reaper7]

This will be of interest to you

http://www.u-boot-hahd.com/forums/sh...ad.php?tid=315

[SilentOtto]

Well it does look promising, reaper. I have joined and will keep an eye there!

[Hinrich Schwab]

Originally Posted by reaper7

This will be of interest to you

http://www.u-boot-hahd.com/forums/sh...ad.php?tid=315

Joined the forum.

[GreyIron]

I also have joined ....and I would be a supporter to any subsim project if it shall develop.

Just be very meticulous and careful guys, and plan everything way, way ahead before you start. Over the years, so many talented people have left their mark on the games as modders, no doubt such a project has a very real chance of getting completed. But remember, when making a game not only developing talent is needed but some kind of management too!
I'd rather wait patiently for a long, long time to get the ultimate game then to face a disappointing end product earlier.

[Sea Demon]

Modern Sub Warfare or WW2? If Modern...Diesels or Nukes? LA Class, Virginia, Seawolf, Akula, or Kilo? If WW2, Atlantic or Pacific Theater? Balao or Porpoise? Type II or Type VII? Type IV??? Opposing Drivable Surface Units?

[Diablo2]

Got the support of my pocketbook.

[theroc44]

Hello all, i would most def be interested. I have been craving a sub sim that does justice for years. A few came close. But i digress and would surely be interested.

[aanker]

So you're a mind reader? I've been having this same idea and brought it up on FB.

I am definitely in once there are enough people to raise the funding.

I don't know how much it would cost but if Subsim members want another Sub sim I think this Kickstarter idea is the only way we are going to see it.

Happy Hunting!

Art

[h.sie]

this was my hope, but i fear they'll never finish......

http://dangerdeep.sourceforge.net/gallery/

[aanker]

h.sie wrote:
"this was my hope, but i fear they'll never finish......"

Yep, been following DangerDeep for many years, they seem to be plugging along in spurts. I hoped they would get something going and after perfecting their U-Boats in the Atlantic, add the Pacific Theatre, however the biggest news from my perspective is that I keep getting older.... lol

Happy Hunting!

Art

[SilentOtto]

I am happy to see I'm not alone in this

[makman94]

Originally Posted by h.sie

this was my hope, but i fear they'll never finish......

http://dangerdeep.sourceforge.net/gallery/

so right H.Sie ! this was my hope too ,have totally forgot it.they were doing so fine (really fine) work so far .
if they are around somewhere....maybe there is still hope with some additional help by us
will try to contact them