I'm not sure I ever made an introduction yet.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Solace

But we do let them join forums and so they can join and participate in this VERY DISCUSSION, and I can only imagine that they'd pick my side.

They'd pick your side for exactly the reason razark stated - they have no understanding of how the real world works.

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

They'd pick your side for exactly the reason razark stated - they have no understanding of how the real world works.

In the real world colleges don't require school uniforms. Your logic is flawed.

[Radtgaeb]

Originally Posted by Solace

I'm just saying, you can't compare the poor to the middle and upper classes. Just like you can't compare the middle to the upper class.

We're not talking about tax brackets, we're discussing uniform policy. Apples and oranges.

A student is a student is a student. Regardless of income bracket, teenagers are going to be teenagers. Distractions are distractions. Cliques are cliques. Geographic location/income differentials will play in the population count of each clique...but they're going to be there.

The advent of a uniform policy defends against the outward display of clique affiliation (being an intern in the police department of the city I attend college at, I think "gang affiliation"); cutting down on propensity for distraction in the form of scuffles or heated argument/verbal disagreements. It can also be argued that a uniform policy would protect against the possibility of teachers showing preference for upper-class students...the difference would be less obvious because everyone would be wearing the same clothes, same colors. Because, let's face it, most of us tend to think more highly of well-dressed individuals, no?

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Solace

In the real world colleges don't require school uniforms. Your logic is flawed.

In the real world you'd never have to worry about what colleges do or don't require if you believe high school is for "chillin with friends" instead of learning.

Originally Posted by Radtgaeb

We're not talking about tax brackets, we're discussing uniform policy. Apples and oranges.

A student is a student is a student. Regardless of income bracket, teenagers are going to be teenagers. Distractions are distractions. Cliques are cliques. Geographic location/income differentials will play in the population count of each clique...but they're going to be there.

The advent of a uniform policy defends against the outward display of clique affiliation (being an intern in the police department of the city I attend college at, I think "gang affiliation"); cutting down on propensity for distraction in the form of scuffles or heated argument/verbal disagreements. It can also be argued that a uniform policy would protect against the possibility of teachers showing preference for upper-class students...the difference would be less obvious because everyone would be wearing the same clothes, same colors. Because, let's face it, most of us tend to think more highly of well-dressed individuals, no?

The poor people have school uniforms usually because they can't afford clothing.

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

In the real world you'd never have to worry about what colleges do or don't require if you believe high school is for "chillin with friends" instead of learning.

Few things of value are learned from classes in high school.

[Radtgaeb]

Originally Posted by Solace

The poor people have school uniforms usually because they can't afford clothing.

Nice attempt at the use of ethos/pathos. Unfortunately it's ineffective...don't use the suffering of others to mask your own interests.

Originally Posted by Radtgaeb

Nice attempt at the use of ethos/pathos. Unfortunately it's ineffective...don't use the suffering of others to mask your own interests.

It's the truth. I learned in it fashion class at school. As you claim, things are learned. And apparently you think everything in school is right, so I'm using your own argument against you.

[Radtgaeb]

Originally Posted by Solace

It's the truth. I learned in it fashion class at school. As you claim, things are learned. And apparently you think everything in school is right, so I'm using your own argument against you.

Please quote where I said "everything in school is right". Or where I implied that. I simply understand that academic forums are simply that...academic forums. We don't learn by having things spewed at us, we learn through discourse and rhetoric. Uniforms simply level the playing field of the forum. Those who can't hang will raise cane about it "killing the individual".

And I really don't care what you learned in fashion class. Neither should you since "few things of value" are learned through high school courses. And you tend to be arguing that "nothing in school is right" if you'll allow me to make assumptions as you have.

At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter if uniforms exist or not. I certainly HOPE that by the time I have kids and they're going to school, it's a fixture. If not, that's fine too. Those who want to learn will learn, those who don't will focus on the minutiae.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Solace

Few things of value are learned from classes in high school.

Put that on your college application and see how far it gets you. Better yet, put it on your job application under the "Education" section and see how far that gets you.

[razark]

You want a really good laugh?

Print this thread out, or just save it on your computer, and look at it in 2, 5, and ten years.

[Radtgaeb]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Put that on your college application and see how far it gets you. Better yet, put it on your job application under the "Education" section and see how far that gets you.

[Krauter]

Originally Posted by Solace

But we do let them join forums and so they can join and participate in this VERY DISCUSSION, and I can only imagine that they'd pick my side.

I'm 18 also, and reading the sh!t you're spewing makes me realize why most people on internet forums think teens are such angsty gits. Man get a grip on reality outside of your own little world and grow up.

Edit: And quit using double posts to get your post count up.. makes your trolling even more obvious. There's a edit function for a reason

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Solace

It's the truth. I learned in it fashion class at school. As you claim, things are learned. And apparently you think everything in school is right, so I'm using your own argument against you.

And you think that school is for chillin' and sex [with minors]. It is a perfect illustration of why China is the future, and why I was born in a first-world nation and will likely die in a third-world nation; all without ever going through a naturalization process.

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by Solace

I speak English, German, Spanish, and I'm learning Lithuanian.

Please back up your claim. Care to translate this sentence into English?
Der Läufer stolperter über den Läufer im Gang.

If you can point out the spelling error, you'll get an extra point. If you don't answer I will assume that you are fake.

Cheers,
Penguin