Wuhan virus 2020

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by August

To all you folks getting these shots, do you think you should pick your personal injury lawyers now maybe with a retainer, or wait until the side effects hit and hope get in on a class action suit later on?

?? If you're talking about the J&J vaccine, I'm not a woman, so worst case scenario would have been anaphylactic shock due to an unknown allergy.

[August]

Originally Posted by MaDef

?? If you're talking about the J&J vaccine, I'm not a woman, so worst case scenario would have been anaphylactic shock due to an unknown allergy.

Yeah that's what they are claiming now. What about in 5 or 10 years when they find out it also causes cancer or something else equally horrible? Ask any Gulf War vet about the unknown side effects of vaccination.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by August

Yeah that's what they are claiming now. What about in 5 or 10 years when they find out it also causes cancer or something else equally horrible? Ask any Gulf War vet about the unknown side effects of vaccination.

There you go again August

Oddball said it best in the movie "Kelly's Hero's"

"Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig
how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and
hopeful for a change?"

[Reece]

I so loved that movie and especially Donald Sutherland's part, one cool dude.

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by August

Yeah that's what they are claiming now. What about in 5 or 10 years when they find out it also causes cancer or something else equally horrible? Ask any Gulf War vet about the unknown side effects of vaccination.

I live in California, according to them everything causes cancer.

WARNING: This product can expose you to chemicals including arsenic, which is known to the State of California to cause cancer. For more information, go to www.P65Warnings.ca.gov.”

[August]

Well we shall see either way right? The drugs that you all have taken did not exist this time last year so nobody can know what the long term side effects will be. As we see with other drugs it can take years before they show up.



But regardless there's no way to undo the shot once you've got it, so if it does cause your noses to fall off or some other physical misery someday then that is now in your future, regardless of how seriously you may consider the possibility today.


I may eventually end up being forced to join your ranks but i'm going to roll this natural immunity for now.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

You guys drive on the wrong side of the road and now you put your dates backwards too?

Your date above reads DATE VACCINE GIVEN 6/5/21

Which in our country reads June 5th 2021

Means it hasn't happened yet

Best you make no reference to international time being behind GMT on your side of the pond then

[Jimbuna]

No idea how accurate this is but pray God let it be wrong.

New Study Estimates More Than 900,000 People Have Died Of COVID-19 In U.S.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...=1620386268794

[Jimbuna]

[Skybird]

In a U-turn, Biden now supports a waiving of vaccine patents.

The US is an importing champion, depending on external exporters, namely China and India, delivering key products and ressources, from precious earths to medications and supplies for producing meds in US factories. Biden wants these economies coming up to terms again so that the US importing demands are no longer limited or under threat of collapsing (India, china).

The US also does not export vaccines, nor does it export ingredients for vaccines, a full ban for example to Europe and Germany is in place, threatening plans in Germany to produce additional vaccines like Curevac. Without productioin supplies form the US, this is not possible, and these supplies are ebign denied.

I am strictly against this idea. It rapes market logic, opens the door for further furture business expropriations, and brings in big state and planned economy.

It does not do anything for other countries to produce vaccines, because most do not have the needed knowhow and infrastructure anyway. And making vaccines is a tricky task. Even in the first world, producing them means to every couple of times creating a batch of vaccines that must be thrown away, because it is erratic.

It also betrays the producers, and threatens their willingness for future cooperation and future development - namely cost-intensive development of new antibiotics, and others. Why should they invest in these billions-costing projects when they must always live with the threat that the state once again steals the fruits of their investements in the name of a higher cause? Socialism also commits its crimes all in the name of the higher cause.

And many states now demanding to be given stuff for free: that now they have no money and organization often is due to corrupt home politlical structures, dysfunctional economic home structures, and incapability and unwillingness of own elites. I do not see why they should be given a free bail out from things they have to accept own responsibility for. Maybe stop investing into big wars and military shopping tours and even coinquest and terror - and instead into things of real importance?

Biden wants the wrong thing for the wrong reasons about which he does not tell the full truth. But the real reasons are national sefishness anyway. Has nothing to do with lovingly embracing a suffering world.

But people who have since years and years been brainwashed into the mental attitude of a teddybear of course love to believe that.

The EU's Super-Uschi also now wants it - just a very short time ago she has rejected any such demands with bitter determination. She has sniffed the scent of the times in the changing wind and sees a chance here to repair her damaged reputation by pleasing populistic demands. That it comes at the cost of certain parts of the industry having to face the blow from her PR campaign, just is typical for her behaviour's established record: saving her neck at the expense of all others and the institution's disadvantage. The longtemr consequence of the affected onduistry maybe not beign motivated anymore to invest into desperately needed research into new antibiotics, is being completely ignored both by Biden and Super-Uschji. And the WHO. And that could terribly backfire.

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

No idea how accurate this is but pray God let it be wrong.

It's NPR. You can safely ignore it.

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by Skybird

In a U-turn, Biden now supports a waiving of vaccine patents.

The US is an importing champion, depending on external exporters, namely China and India, delivering key products and ressources, from precious earths to medications and supplies for producing meds in US factories. Biden wants these economies coming up to terms again so that the US importing demands are no longer limited or under threat of collapsing (India, china).

The US also does not export vaccines, nor does it export ingredients for vaccines, a full ban for example to Europe and Germany is in place, threatening plans in Germany to produce additional vaccines like Curevac. Without productioin supplies form the US, this is not possible, and these supplies are ebign denied.

I am strictly against this idea. It rapes market logic, opens the door for further furture business expropriations, and brings in big state and planned economy.

It does not do anything for other countries to produce vaccines, because most do not have the needed knowhow and infrastructure anyway. And making vaccines is a tricky task. Even in the first world, producing them means to every couple of times creating a batch of vaccines that must be thrown away, because it is erratic.

It also betrays the producers, and threatens their willingness for future cooperation and future development - namely cost-intensive development of new antibiotics, and others. Why should they invest in these billions-costing projects when they must always live with the threat that the state once again steals the fruits of their investements in the name of a higher cause? Socialism also commits its crimes all in the name of the higher cause.

And many states now demanding to be given stuff for free: that now they have no money and organization often is due to corrupt home politlical structures, dysfunctional economic home structures, and incapability and unwillingness of own elites. I do not see why they should be given a free bail out from things they have to accept own responsibility for. Maybe stop investing into big wars and military shopping tours and even coinquest and terror - and instead into things of real importance?

Biden wants the wrong thing for the wrong reasons about which he does not tell the full truth. But the real reasons are national sefishness anyway. Has nothing to do with lovingly embracing a suffering world.

But people who have since years and years been brainwashed into the mental attitude of a teddybear of course love to believe that.

The EU's Super-Uschi also now wants it - just a very short time ago she has rejected any such demands with bitter determination. She has sniffed the scent of the times in the changing wind and sees a chance here to repair her damaged reputation by pleasing populistic demands. That it comes at the cost of certain parts of the industry having to face the blow from her PR campaign, just is typical for her behaviour's established record: saving her neck at the expense of all others and the institution's disadvantage. The longtemr consequence of the affected onduistry maybe not beign motivated anymore to invest into desperately needed research into new antibiotics, is being completely ignored both by Biden and Super-Uschji. And the WHO. And that could terribly backfire.

Biden is a dementia patient. What did you expect other than him being a sock puppet for communists and globalists?

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

No idea how accurate this is but pray God let it be wrong.

Probably just click bait, but I still can't figure out how India can be so bad and hide the real numbers at the same time.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Probably just click bait, but I still can't figure out how India can be so bad and hide the real numbers at the same time.

One cannot begin to imagine what the true figures in China might look like.

[Jimbuna]

Germany has voiced opposition to a US-backed proposal to waive patents on Covid-19 vaccines, saying they were not hindering production of the jabs.

Its government said "the protection of intellectual property is a source of innovation and must remain so".

The European Union earlier said it was ready to talk about the proposal, and some states gave it their full backing.

Supporters of the plan say it will allow more manufactures to produce the life-saving vaccines.

They argue that this will increase access to jabs in poorer countries.

But opponents, including drug makers, say it may not have the desired effect.
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ry=dr+campbell