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Old 06-12-08, 08:58 AM   #1
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I opened this site this morning for the first time.
I am running SH4, patched to 1.4, and TMO (I do not have U-Boat Mod).
How do I determine if I can run these missions, and where I install them? Also, where does it tell me if they are MP or single, I only play single play missions.
OH if this is deemed a stupid question by some of you, don't answer me please. I have been coming to this site (Subsim), since the 90s started with 688i and Fast Attack, but lately I have read derogatory remarks when some one ask a legitimate question. I don't know why this is happening but I, as a long time user, find it in very poor taste. I am 67 years old, with some health problems and playing Sub Simulations provides a great deal of entertainment for me. So, if all you have to offer in regards to my questions is ridicule- stow it- I will move on.

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Old 06-12-08, 03:01 PM   #2
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Don't fret, Sub Sailor. I am 69 myself and play many different games.
SH4 is a very good sim and gets better every day with add-ons by the
experts here at Subsim. The new U-Boat expansion (I don't have it yet
myself but will get is sometime this summer) adds many more hours of
play to this already fine game.....

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Old 06-12-08, 04:55 PM   #3
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Sub, no question is dumb. The one with the smart remarks didn't know the answer either until some one told him, now he thinks he's a genius.
I have found that most people that write missions may not tell you if they are single missions, but usually DO tell you if it's multiplayer. So, if it doesn't say then it's probably a single mission. And a lot give names like SM12 Mission Name for single an MP Mission Name for mutiplayer.

To install you just put the folder inside "Singlemissions" folder in SH4/data. As for whether they will run or not, you really would just have to try them, because you don't know what they used to write them. They are not very big usually, so it isn't like it takes a long time to download. If they put a picture in the folder for a briefing screen that is usually the biggest thing in there. The biggest one I wrote with a pic and the files compressed was 67Kb so it d/ls in no time. So, it's no big deal to d/l, try it, if it doesn't work then you can either delete it or stick it aside in case you get 1.5. (Uboat Add-on)
One note though if you decide to keep them DO NOT rename the folder they are in. There will be at least 2 files "missionname.mis" and "missionname.tsr" and these MUST have the same name as the folder they are in. So for that example it would be in a folder called "missionname" There may be other files in there like a picture .tga, or a readme file, those names don't matter, except don't change the .tga name or it won't show on the briefing screen, it just doesn't have to match the folder name.

So, simply put unless they tell you which version it is, you won't know if it will work unless you try it.

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Old 06-13-08, 07:54 AM   #4
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Hey thank you very much. My next question how can I tell if the mission(S) are for my setup,-SH4 patched to 1.4 and using the TMO modification? I am unclear about the numbering system used. I believe that 1.5 is U-Boat mod but not sure how mine is labeled. I have no interest in installing the U-Boat mod at this time but believe it's great for those who enjoy U-Boats. There is or should be room on this site for everyone.
About the comments, I first started on this site in the 90s, but a computer problem required me to set-up a new account, so I show membership since 2002. In the last couple of years I have seen the level of rudeness and derogatory comments increase. When I started people were glad to help and it was a joy to be on the site. I was able to help people with 688i and SC and it was fun. Now if you still run SC you are dumb, you must run DW-WHY, I thought we were allowed free choice. Beats the hell out of me.

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Old 06-13-08, 10:46 AM   #5
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Hey thank you very much. My next question how can I tell if the mission(S) are for my setup,-SH4 patched to 1.4 and using the TMO modification? I am unclear about the numbering system used. I believe that 1.5 is U-Boat mod but not sure how mine is labeled. I have no interest in installing the U-Boat mod at this time but believe it's great for those who enjoy U-Boats. There is or should be room on this site for everyone.
About the comments, I first started on this site in the 90s, but a computer problem required me to set-up a new account, so I show membership since 2002. In the last couple of years I have seen the level of rudeness and derogatory comments increase. When I started people were glad to help and it was a joy to be on the site. I was able to help people with 688i and SC and it was fun. Now if you still run SC you are dumb, you must run DW-WHY, I thought we were allowed free choice. Beats the hell out of me.

Thank you again,

Ron Banks MMCM(SS), USN(Ret)
About the only way to tell, is to actually try them. This forum has not been kept up to date. There haven't been very many missions added, most of the 'action' is in the MODs. So the ones listed in the "List of Missions" are probably old enough to work with 1.4. I have found I tried to load some SH4 1.4 missions into my 'mission editor' and they crash. So they changed something in the mission editor when they did the U-boat add-on. I bought the add on but I have not even used the U-boat part of it. I was told it did add stuff to the Allied side of the game. I thing the biggest thing it added is that anything 1.4 won't work..
So the way the game is going now, it's getting to the point if you want to use most MODs you eventually will have to upgrade to the Add-on even if you don't use the U-Boat part of it.

As for the TMO question, I haven't used TMO so I don't know what it changes in the game, so I really can't answer that question.

And yes, some people have become rude. But most are ok. It's just the Add-on kind of split the community. That is starting to ease up a bit, so it isn't as bad as it was. I notice a lot of people that give help don't even get a simple 'Thank you'. And there seem to be a lot coming from SH3 that complain things don't work like they did in SH3.

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