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Old 04-02-24, 05:04 PM   #886
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'Violence has never solved any conflict'

In a way it is true. However sometimes violence has to be met with counter violence.

What if USA said in 1942/3
- Violence has never solved any conflict-lets end this world war and sign a treaty with Germany and Japan and stop deliver war material to Russia.

By the way I'm a offensive pacifist not a defence pacifist

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Old 04-02-24, 06:10 PM   #887
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By the way I'm a offensive pacifist not a defence pacifist
Whats that?
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Whats that?
To put it simple I will not attack another person or I wouldn't take part in an offensive against another country

I will however defend myself or my family and friends if they are attacked.

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Old 04-03-24, 07:53 AM   #889
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I see. I more or less tick like that, too.
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Old 04-03-24, 11:10 AM   #890
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Hamas chief says movement sticking to ceasefire conditions including Israeli pullout

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DUBAI (Reuters) -Hamas chief Ismail Haniyeh said on Wednesday that the Islamist movement at war with Israel was sticking to its conditions for a ceasefire in Gaza, including an Israeli military withdrawal.

"We are committed to our demands: the permanent ceasefire, comprehensive and complete withdrawal of the enemy out of the Gaza Strip, the return of all displaced people to their homes, allowing all aid needed for our people in Gaza, rebuilding the Strip, lifting the blockade and achieving an honourable prisoner exchange deal," Haniyeh said in a televised speech marking Al-Quds (Jerusalem) Day.

The exchange he referred to would be a release of Palestinian prisoners from Israeli jails in exchange for Israeli hostages being held by militants in Gaza since Oct. 7.
Israel had said it is interested only in a temporary truce to free hostages, while Hamas says it will let them go only as part of a deal to permanently end the war.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has insisted that Israel will push its invasion into Rafah at the southern end of Gaza, where 1.5 million people have sought shelter.
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Old 04-03-24, 11:33 AM   #891
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Pressure is mounting on Israel after seven people working for food aid charity World Central Kitchen (WCK) were killed in an Israeli strike in Gaza.

Israel’s prime minister said “this happens in war” and that “a thorough inquiry” was being conducted to prevent a recurrence.

The head of the Israeli military says the strike was a grave mistake that occurred due to misidentification in very complex circumstances.

There are concerns about aid supplies in Gaza, as some charities pause their operations while they reassess the security situation.

Meanwhile, more information about those killed is emerging, as are tributes from the families involved.

Three British nationals, John Chapman, James Henderson and James Kirby, were working as security advisors.

Palestinian, Polish, Australian and American-Canadian citizens were also victims.
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Old 04-03-24, 11:54 AM   #892
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The Justice Department in Poland has launched an investigation into the death of aid worker Damian Soból, who was affiliated with World Central Kitchen. A convoy belonging to the American aid organization was hit by an Israeli attack earlier this week. Soból and six others were killed. "We have launched an investigation into Soból's death between April 1 and 2 in Gaza as a result of an Israeli attack with explosives," said the prosecutor in Przemyśl, the town in southeastern Poland where Soból was from. The 35-year-old man was the only Pole killed in the attack. The BBC writes that the mayor of Przemyśl was able to identify him on images as one of the victims. Soból was in Gaza providing meals to Palestinians.

The death of the seven volunteers has caused diplomatic tensions between Israel and several Western allies. Polish Prime Minister Tusk lashed out at his Israeli counterpart on X today. He did so after Netanyahu declared that the convoy was unintentionally targeted and such things "just happen in times of war." "Since Oct. 7, the majority of Poles have consistently shown solidarity with Israel," Tusk wrote. "But today that solidarity is very much put to the test." Tusk described the furious reaction in his country to Netanyahu's remarks as "understandable."

The Israeli army acknowledges that it made "a big mistake" by killing seven employees of the NGO World Central Kitchen (WCK) in an attack in the Gaza Strip. "It is a mistake due to poor nighttime identification, during a war, in very complex circumstances," General Herzi Halevi said in a video message. "It should not have happened." "We share with all our hearts the grief of the families and of all of World Central Kitchen," Halevi said. "An independent body will investigate the event in detail and will report its findings in the coming days."
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Old 04-03-24, 02:35 PM   #893
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Guess it's not a good idea to send your aide workers into a war zone in an armored personnel carrier.
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Guess it's not a good idea to send your aide workers into a war zone in an armored personnel carrier...
... and when Hamas is known to hide in schools, Kindergardens, mosques and hospitals, and having abused ambulances and aid transports before.



As usual, Western media give only one side of the picture. Hamas has defined the rules, or better the absence of rules, by which this war is fought. They defined them and they started all this.


Also things like this happen in war, its not flawless and clean and surgical and well orchestrated. And Hamas propaganda celebrates civilian losses, and provokes them. Call out the right ones for this tragedy.
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... and when Hamas is known to hide in schools, Kindergardens, mosques and hospitals, and having abused ambulances and aid transports before.
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Israeli military halts leave for all combat units - statement

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JERUSALEM (Reuters) -Israel's military halted leave for all combat units on Thursday, it said in a statement, amid concerns of a possible escalation in violence after the killing of Iranian generals in Damascus this week drew threats of retaliation.

"In accordance with the situational assessment, it has been decided that leave will be temporarily paused for all IDF (Israel Defence Forces) combat units. The IDF is at war and the deployment of forces is under continuous assessment according to requirements," the military said in a statement.

On Wednesday, the military said it had drafted reservists to boost aerial defences. Reuters witnesses and Tel Aviv residents reported on Thursday that GPS services had been disrupted, an apparent measure meant to ward off guided missiles.
Iran has vowed revenge for the killing of two of its generals along with five military advisers in an airstrike on an Iranian diplomatic compound in the Syrian capital Damascus on Monday.

It was widely believed to be an Israeli attack, one of the most significant yet on Iranian interests in Syria, which Israel has neither confirmed nor denied and which carries the risk of further inflaming the region.
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Old 04-04-24, 01:29 PM   #897
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Joe Biden has told Benjamin Netanyahu that US support for Israel will depend on steps being taken to "address civilian harm" and "humanitarian suffering"

The US president and Israeli prime minister were speaking for the first time since an Israeli strike killed seven aid workers in Gaza on Monday.

Biden told Netanyahu the strike and "overall humanitarian situation" in Gaza are "unacceptable", the White House says.

Israel is yet to issue its readout of the call - but said earlier this week the incident was a "grave mistake" and promised an independent investigation.

As a result of the strike, some aid groups have paused operations, increasing concerns about starvation in the north of the Strip.

The BBC's Gaza correspondent Rushdi Abualouf says residents there are living in tragic, near-famine conditions.

Meanwhile, the UK government is under pressure to suspend arms sales to Israel - more than 600 legal experts have written to PM Rishi Sunak saying exports must end.
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Israel approves opening of two humanitarian routes into Gaza after call with Biden

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Israel has agreed to reopen two border crossings into Gaza after the cabinet approved a series of “immediate steps” amid pressure over the escalating humanitarian crisis in the Strip.

The Erez crossing in northern Gaza will be opened for the first time since the conflict began on 7 October and Ashdod Port will be opened to allow aid shipments, prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office said on Friday.

"This increased aid will prevent a humanitarian crisis and is necessary to ensure the continuation of the fighting and to achieve the goals of the war," Mr Netanyahu’s office said.

The decision follows US president Joe Biden’s first phone call to the Israeli prime minister since the drone strike on the vehicles of seven charity workers killed in Gaza.
Mr Biden told Mr Netanyahu that future US policy towards Israel will be determined by whether its government takes action to protect aid workers and civilians in Gaza. He asked Mr Netanyahu "to address civilian harm, humanitarian suffering and the safety of aid workers", according to the readout.

Concerns have been raised over evidence of humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza turning into a man-made famine after nearly six months of war.

The UN’s human rights chief Volker Turk on 19 March said that Israeli actions could amount to using starvation as a “weapon of war” and would prove to be a war crime if proven. Tel Aviv has rejected the allegations and dismissed the dire warnings.

The Erez crossing, a heavily fortified pedestrian passageway, has been the only passenger terminal for the people to move in and out of the territory.

But it was heavily damaged when it was breached by Hamas fighters during 7 October attacks and has remained closed since.

The UN and the US National Security Council welcomed the move by Tel Aviv to open the crossings.

The US National Security Council said the opening of humanitarian routes came “at the president’s request”. Spokesperson Adrienne Watson said these steps “must now be fully and rapidly implemented”.

It comes as the Israel Defence Forces halted leaves for all soldiers serving in combat units and disabled GPS amid a possibility of escalation in violence with Iran.

Iran has vowed to retaliate after a strike on its consulate building in Syria on Monday killed 13 people, including two of its generals along with five military advisers.

GPS systems have been disrupted in an apparent measure meant to ward off guided missiles. Israeli residents have reported difficulties accessing location-based app services in significant urban areas such as Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, despite these cities being far from active combat zones.

The IDF also urged people to not panic buy as stores witnessed boost in sales of essential wartime supplies. DF spokesperson Rear Adm Daniel Hagari said: "There is no need to buy generators, store food and withdraw money from ATMs.

“The instructions of the Home Front Command remained unchanged,” he said.

Israeli media outlets report that some of the embassies in the country have been put on alert and some have been evacuated over the threat of a potential strike from Iran.
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The Israeli military has sacked two senior officers after seven World Central Kitchen (WCK) aid workers were killed in a strike in Gaza on Monday.

The IDF's inquiry into the incident says some workers survived initial air strikes, but were killed when a third car was hit.

The BBC's Middle East bureau chief in Jerusalem attended a late night briefing on the IDF's response and is analysing the key lines.

WCK has called for an independent commission to investigate the killings, saying Israel's apologies "represent cold comfort" for the victims' families.

The charity and other aid agencies have paused their operations in Gaza, where the UN estimates 1.1 million people - half the population - are facing catastrophic hunger.

It comes after Israel says it has approved the opening the Erez crossing and Ashdod Port for humanitarian deliveries. More aid from Jordan will also be allowed to enter via the Kerem Shalom crossing.

In their first call since the strike, Joe Biden tells Benjamin Netanyahu that US support for Israel will depend on steps being taken to "address civilian harm" in Gaza.
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'Incitement of violence!': Sinwar’s book glorifying October 7 attacks appears on Amazon


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On Friday, reports emerged of Yahya Sinwar's latest book, "The Thorn and the Carnation," being sold on the Amazon website. Additionally, it is purportedly available through the US book retailer Barnes and Noble.

The book, listed on Amazon since December 2023, allegedly goes in depth of the October 7 attacks.

The book proudly claims Sinwar’s responsibility for the October 7 Hamas attacks, dubbing him the "architect of the Flood of Al-Aqsa."

The 212-page book delves into the topic of "incarceration in Israeli prisons" and claims to be "an essential read for those aiming to understand the persistent tensions within the Middle East."

Reports have claimed that the book was written by Sinwar when he was serving a sentence in Israeli prison for murdering several Israelis.

Supporters of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar protest in Khan Younis, in the southern Gaza Strip, on May 7, 2022 (credit: ATTIA MUHAMMED/FLASH90)
The book’s description hails it as the “chronicles [of] the relentless pursuit of liberation.”

Opinions on the book expressed in Amazon reviews are varied, with some condemning it as fueling anti-Semitic sentiments, while others applaud its portrayal of the Palestinian struggle.

The Board of Deputies of British Jews has urged Amazon to remove the listing, expressing concerns that it may have been exploited to, stating that it has been used to “propagandize on behalf of a proscribed terrorist organization [Hamas] and also to raise money for it.”

Yahya Sinwar leads both the political and military branches of the Hamas organization in the Gaza Strip and is accused of being the mastermind behind the October 7 attacks.
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