Wuhan virus 2020 - Page 153

Buddahaid · 04-02-20, 10:04 PM

Not surprising but yeah...

US Navy removes Captain Brett Crozier who raised alarm
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52145230

Buddahaid · 04-02-20, 10:07 PM

Marin County residents have taken to howling at 8 o'clock each night to take the edge of the day during shelter-in-place.

https://omny.fm/shows/kqed-segmented...s-marin-county

August · 04-02-20, 10:07 PM

You guys are going to be whining about Trump for another four years so maybe you should pace yourselves a little.

If your complaint about Trump is that he moved too slowly against this latest Chinese plague then just imagine the glacial response you'd get with senile old Joe Biden in charge. Remember how long it took him to decide to even run for President? He brings that kind of decisiveness to this situation. Guaranteed that our body count would be much much higher because no way would he have instituted early travel bans, especially from China. I don't think he would have been able to marshal private industry either.

Of course this would have been in the fourth year of his presidency. He's already worn out and he hasn't even taken office yet. By year four he'd be completely useless. The nation would have to pray that his VP, who he picked for their gender and quite possibly their skin color over their qualifications, will be able to quickly 25th Amendment him out of the way and organize some sort of response, maybe by June or July. That's assuming that four years of tearing down our healthcare system will not have completely destroyed our ability to respond at all.

Buddahaid · 04-02-20, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by August

...just imagine the glacial response you'd get with senile old Joe Biden in charge...

He's not the president and that is nothing but talking out of your ass like our ass in chief excels in. A complete fabrication based on wishes and vanity.

Rockstar · 04-02-20, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Not surprising but yeah...

US Navy removes Captain Brett Crozier who raised alarm
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52145230

Maybe Trump will intervene in Naval affairs again and reinstate him. You never know, he's done before.

Rockstar · 04-02-20, 11:05 PM

A tale of two governors apparently one follows federal guidelines and most likely even improved upon them. The other, underestimated the danger.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) said Tuesday he wants to be “cautious” about drawing conclusions about the effectiveness of the state’s social distancing efforts but that he’s more confident its health care system can handle what’s coming.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...lifornia-data/

Gov. Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat, acknowledged having underestimated how overwhelming the situation would become. "It's more dangerous than we expected," he said.

\https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/New-York-s-scramble-to-brace-for-peak-crisis-is-15172994.php

Last I read the governor of Texas and some others, like Cuomo, are going to wait and see what happens before they take it more seriously.

Back in the day I learned when laws are being developed thought also goes into law enforcement agencies ability to actually enforce it. So even if the law would be greatly beneficial if its found it cant reasonably be enforced it usually doesn't pass, because whats the point? I figure if Texas doesn't take COVID19 as serious as California did. Maybe Trump should declare martial law suspend the Posse Comitatus Act and send federal and military forces into Texas to enforce the Federal governments stay at home orders that everyone wants. Get-er-done Trump they need a savior because they cant seem to handle it themselves.

Reece · 04-02-20, 11:51 PM

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Get-er-done Trump they need a savior because they cant seem to handle it themselves.

em2nought · 04-03-20, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by August

You guys are going to be whining about Trump for another four years so maybe you should pace yourselves a little.

If your complaint about Trump is that he moved too slowly against this latest Chinese plague then just imagine the glacial response you'd get with senile old Joe Biden in charge. Remember how long it took him to decide to even run for President? He brings that kind of decisiveness to this situation. Guaranteed that our body count would be much much higher because no way would he have instituted early travel bans, especially from China.

If HRC was president John Kerry or his emissary wouldn't have needed to make a desperate venture to China and convince them to release something nasty so the world could go back to trashing the USA financially business as usual pre-Trump.

Not something made in a lab, something natural so as not to be able to be blamed on anyone.

If not one of those antiquated geezer democratic leadership drops dead from COVID-19 I'm gonna be very suspicious.

Buddahaid · 04-03-20, 12:39 AM

Again, not based on any reality, or facts, just bullcrap fantasy from the bullcrap right want-a bees. Stupid.

vienna · 04-03-20, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

A tale of two governors apparently one follows federal guidelines and most likely even improved upon them. The other, underestimated the danger.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) said Tuesday he wants to be “cautious” about drawing conclusions about the effectiveness of the state’s social distancing efforts but that he’s more confident its health care system can handle what’s coming.

...

Wow, Rockstar saying something positive about California and its Governor...

Is that Satan I see ice skating? An has porcine aviation suddenly become a thing?...

Actually, its kind of amusing to see and hear some of the same people who, in the past, made light of or were critical of Gov. Newsom and Washington State Gov. Inslee now singing a very different tune. They were said to have been overly exaggerating the severity of Covid-19, to be reacting in a knee-jerk panic, that shutdowns were not the answer, etc. Now the rest of the country (at least the part whose state leadership is not still is besotted by the Trump Kool-Aid) is saying Newsom and Inslee were prescient in their evaluations and approaches; I don't know about prescient, nor do I know much about Inslee and his approach to the pandemic, but I do know Newsom did his homework, consulted with known experts in the field, evaluated his options and acted swiftly, without regard to the bellowing from the White House; Newsom also was fortunate to already have appointed some very qualified persons to posts that are key to fighting the problem and, since the beginning of the crisis, has added other qualified persons to augment those already on the jobs. I watch his daily updates on TV and he is straightforward, knowledgeable and deferential to those who have knowledge he does not, gives the facts without color, and has presented a strong, optimistic image, something that is reassuring to Californians. I really didn't expect much from Newsom when he got elected in 2018; he did get 61.95% of the total vote, but CA is a DEM state and the GOP candidate running against Newsom was a Trump tool, so Newsom winning was pretty predictable. But, now, with the way he has led the state in this pandemic and the way he has carried himself in public, I do believe I will be voting to reelect him as governor...

BTW, very early on, when Newsom realized respirators were going to be a very big need, he attempted to set up a sort of 'buyer's club' with the governors of other states, the idea was the states could pool their buying power and thus make purchases in bulk using the combined assets as leverage on the open market; there was some interest, but states pulled out because they were being reassured they would be taken care of, and the proposal stalled and CA went on to seek their own supplies; those reassurances came from some big, dumb orange guy in DC...

So, basically, the two states so widely derided over their Covid-19 response are now being hailed as examples...

Inslee and Newsom both took a realistic look around at the rest of the world, saw what was and wasn't; sought expert advice and took big chances, politically, that they were making the right decisions; its something leaders do...

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vienna · 04-03-20, 04:30 AM

Some interesting info on how other countries are dealing with Covid-19, including using police detectives...

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Skybird · 04-03-20, 05:29 AM

Here is your daily dose of obvious truth and healthy reason.

Jimbuna · 04-03-20, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Hey jim came across this.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-52133766

BETTER RESPONSE TONIGHT...

Not here....only the wife and I plus a nearby neighbour who works for the NHS

Jimbuna · 04-03-20, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by u crank

I'll express faith in the tooth fairy before I believe that red line that represents China.

Yep

Skybird · 04-03-20, 05:48 AM

And another source.

Remember what I said on vacuum cleaner bags?

04-02-20, 10:04 PM	#2281
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,570 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	Not surprising but yeah... US Navy removes Captain Brett Crozier who raised alarm https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52145230 __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

04-02-20, 10:07 PM	#2282
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,570 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	Marin County residents have taken to howling at 8 o'clock each night to take the edge of the day during shelter-in-place. https://omny.fm/shows/kqed-segmented...s-marin-county __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

04-02-20, 11:05 PM	#2286
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,899 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	A tale of two governors apparently one follows federal guidelines and most likely even improved upon them. The other, underestimated the danger. California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) said Tuesday he wants to be “cautious” about drawing conclusions about the effectiveness of the state’s social distancing efforts but that he’s more confident its health care system can handle what’s coming. https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...lifornia-data/ Gov. Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat, acknowledged having underestimated how overwhelming the situation would become. "It's more dangerous than we expected," he said. \https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/New-York-s-scramble-to-brace-for-peak-crisis-is-15172994.php Last I read the governor of Texas and some others, like Cuomo, are going to wait and see what happens before they take it more seriously. Back in the day I learned when laws are being developed thought also goes into law enforcement agencies ability to actually enforce it. So even if the law would be greatly beneficial if its found it cant reasonably be enforced it usually doesn't pass, because whats the point? I figure if Texas doesn't take COVID19 as serious as California did. Maybe Trump should declare martial law suspend the Posse Comitatus Act and send federal and military forces into Texas to enforce the Federal governments stay at home orders that everyone wants. Get-er-done Trump they need a savior because they cant seem to handle it themselves. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time. Last edited by Rockstar; 04-02-20 at 11:35 PM.

04-03-20, 12:39 AM	#2289
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,570 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	Again, not based on any reality, or facts, just bullcrap fantasy from the bullcrap right want-a bees. Stupid. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

04-03-20, 04:30 AM	#2291
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,515 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Some interesting info on how other countries are dealing with Covid-19, including using police detectives... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

04-02-20, 10:07 PM	#2283
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 22,696 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You guys are going to be whining about Trump for another four years so maybe you should pace yourselves a little. If your complaint about Trump is that he moved too slowly against this latest Chinese plague then just imagine the glacial response you'd get with senile old Joe Biden in charge. Remember how long it took him to decide to even run for President? He brings that kind of decisiveness to this situation. Guaranteed that our body count would be much much higher because no way would he have instituted early travel bans, especially from China. I don't think he would have been able to marshal private industry either. Of course this would have been in the fourth year of his presidency. He's already worn out and he hasn't even taken office yet. By year four he'd be completely useless. The nation would have to pray that his VP, who he picked for their gender and quite possibly their skin color over their qualifications, will be able to quickly 25th Amendment him out of the way and organize some sort of response, maybe by June or July. That's assuming that four years of tearing down our healthcare system will not have completely destroyed our ability to respond at all.

04-03-20, 05:29 AM	#2292
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,577 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Here is your daily dose of obvious truth and healthy reason. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

04-03-20, 05:48 AM	#2295
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,577 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	And another source. Remember what I said on vacuum cleaner bags? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.