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Old 12-12-20, 08:09 AM   #5716
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Old 12-12-20, 01:20 PM   #5717
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Old 12-13-20, 12:11 PM   #5718
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Germany is to go into a hard lockdown over the Christmas period as the number of deaths and infections from the coronavirus reaches record levels.

Non-essential shops will close across the country from Wednesday, as will schools, with children to be cared for at home wherever possible.

Chancellor Angela Merkel blamed Christmas shopping for a "considerable" rise in social contacts.

The latest figures showed 20,200 more infections and a further 321 deaths.

The new lockdown will run from 16 December to 10 January. Announcing the move after meeting leaders of the country's 16 states, Mrs Merkel said there was "an urgent need to take action".
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That's hard luck on Germany, especially when you consider how well they coped at the beginning of the pandemic.
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Old 12-13-20, 01:07 PM   #5719
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Old 12-13-20, 02:13 PM   #5720
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That's hard luck on Germany, especially when you consider how well they coped at the beginning of the pandemic.
The horrible figures are only partly bad luck or the consequence of factors that can't be controlled (colder weather, shorter days, more indoor activity). Three capital mistakes have been made since the first wave.

- The low numbers in summer and early autumn were interpreted as the final throes of the virus, though experts warned the second wave would hit us sooner or later. The time that could have been used to come up with a long-term strategy was wasted.

- In the beginning of the second wave everybody with a basic understanding of exponential growth told the persons in charge the adequate answer was an early hard lockdown. This was exactly what made us look good in the first wave: The early response. But quite the contrary was put into effect: a "lockdown lite" with hardy any positive effect. And even worse, it was extended for a two week period twice.

- 16 federal states, each with their own set of rules. Rules that were partially changed on a daily basis. If you start annoying people, they will start looking for bolt-holes. The virus loves bolt-holes. A response to a pandemic requires convincing people to act responsibly, not treat them like little kids.
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Old 12-13-20, 04:42 PM   #5722
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What's the situation like in Sweden? Bloomberg paints a scary picture, nurses are quitting go get time off....anyone have a first-hand feel?

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Old 12-14-20, 03:23 AM   #5723
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An Australian candidate for a vaccine is abandoned after some trial participants return false HIV positive results.
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Reports here say that it was every participant.

Wonder whether they can refine their HIV test, instead of throwing the baby out with the bath water.
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GP surgeries in more than 100 locations in England will receive their first deliveries of the Pfizer jab
Care home residents in Scotland will also start receiving the jab.

The US begins massive task of rolling out the vaccine, with first doses distributed to dozens of locations.

President Trump reverses a plan for White House officials to receive the vaccine in the coming days.

All schools in Greenwich, London, have been asked to move to online learning from Tuesday.

London mayor Sadiq Khan calls for more help if London moves to Tier 3 of restrictions this week.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock will make a statement to the House of Commons at 15:30

New Zealand agrees to a quarantine-free travel bubble with Australia “in principle”

Germany is to go into a hard lockdown over the Christmas period.

Eswatini Prime Minister dies with Covid-19 - believed to be the first world leader in office to do so.
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People getting the jabs by Biontech/Pfizer or Moderna should expect more severe secondary symptoms for a while than usual with other vaccinations. Severe headaches, muscle pain and fever above 40°C are possible. Its said that this is a wanted immunization reaction , but not to the mRNA element, but the lipo-nano-particles in which the mRNA is packed.

I you get vaccinated, make sure you understand this so that you do not panic if these symptoms bite you.

Two articles, one English, one German (translated to English).

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Vaccination with the mRNA vaccines against Covid-19 from Biontech Pfizer and Moderna can sometimes cause very violent reactions, as some study participants are now reporting. Fatigue, fever, and muscle pain can be possible reactions. Doctors should educate vaccinees and make it clear that strong reactions are a sign of a desired immune response Reactions such as fatigue and fever can be very violent when vaccinated with the mRNA vaccines. But this is usually nothing to worry about.

Kristen R. Choi is a nurse and works in clinical research. She herself has often sought participants for studies via social media, she writes in a field report in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine. Therefore, the advertisement by Biontech and Pfizer for the recruitment of test subjects for their vaccination study initially only aroused their professional interest. In the end, however, she also registered, was selected and was given two injections at intervals of one month - at the time she did not know whether a placebo or verum.

The first injection caused no discomfort apart from slight pain in the arm. The second was completely different: “I quickly got pain at the injection site, much more than the first time. In the evening of that day I was dizzy, I was cold, I was sick and I had a very severe headache, «writes Choi. She went to bed early and fell asleep quickly, but woke up around midnight because she was feeling significantly worse. She could barely raise her arm because of the pain at the injection site and her temperature (37.4 ° C). After a restless sleep, she woke up again early in the morning and had a high fever (40.5 ° C). "That was the highest fever I can ever remember and it scared me," says Choi. After taking a paracetamol tablet, the temperature dropped during the day and by the next morning all symptoms were gone except for a sore, swollen area at the injection site.

Her strong reaction makes her very sure that she actually received the verum, although of course she could not know because of the blinding of the study, says Choi. She wanted to report on her experiences because she feared that the severe side effects could endanger the acceptance of the vaccination. Despite the intensive clarification by the study staff, she herself did not get the information that she had to expect vaccination reactions "on a personal level". In the meantime, she feared that she was suffering from Covid-19.

According to study data, 75 percent of subjects reported exhaustion, 67 percent headache, 25 percent muscle pain, 17 percent fever, and 17 percent joint pain after vaccination with BNT162b2. Even if it is seldom the case that a vaccinee develops all these symptoms at once, it is extremely important that doctors really make it clear to the vaccine candidates in advance that violent reactions are possible - and that these are then a sign of a desired immune reaction.

A very similar report by a test person who had received the vaccine mRNA-1273 from Moderna as part of the vaccination study was recently published in the journal Science on its news page. Very strong reactions to the second injection seem to be possible with both mRNA vaccines, but according to the "Science" article, the trigger is not the mRNA itself, but rather the lipid nanoparticles in which the mRNA is packaged. In this text, too, experts emphasize that people who have been vaccinated must be prepared for the reactions, otherwise acceptance would be lost. Even if the acute reactions are sometimes very violent, there is currently nothing to suggest that there could be negative long-term consequences.
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In some early post I wrote about attitude and mentioned ignorance as one of two types.
So far I had only meet a few on the web until today

In the news today I heard and read following.

An institut has asked 23.000 Danish citizens on corona in general and isolations.

Only 11 % of these 23.000 put them self in isolation if they had one or two Covid-19 symptoms

Only 53 % of these 23.000 put them self in isolation if they had two or more Covid-19 symptoms

Only 83 % of these 23.000 put them self in isolation when Covid-19 has been confirmed.

So the numbers of ignorance here in Denmark seems to be high. I wonder how it look in other European countries and USA.

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Old 12-15-20, 12:13 PM   #5730
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New mutation variant identified in the UK, reported to the WHO. Whether it is a threat to the vaccination campaign, is not yet clear. Certain is that the mutation affects the spike protein of the virus that the vaccines are targetting. It is assumed that the new strain has somethign to do with the increased speed by which the virus spreads in parts of the UK, and worldwide.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55308211

Shift probabilities in your favour. Do not depend exclusively on vaccines. Boost your natural inbuild defences: take Vit D, C, A, Zinc, Selenium, Iodine. There are no certainties, just probabilities, some of which are more favourable than others.
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