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Old 06-25-21, 05:53 PM   #3601
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Usually a terrorist shouts alle ackbar or something like that when they're perpetrating a terrorist act, until we hear differently it must be assumed that it's a mental attack and not a terrorist one.
From what I understand he yield Allahu Akbar when he attacked people on the street.

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Old 06-26-21, 05:32 AM   #3602
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Motive sought following fatal knife attack in Germany
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...?ocid=msedgntp

You might be right Markus and then again you might not, 1 person heard him shout alli ackbar and until other witnesses say the same we can only speculate on what happened.
They can't sweep this one under the carpet so the truth will come out, or should I say, the Security Services truth will come out, but who knows if their truth will be the Real truth.
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Old 06-26-21, 05:51 AM   #3603
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The Neue Zürcher Zeitung writes:


The motive of the alleged perpetrator is still unknown. Herrmann reported, however, from eyewitness reports, according to which the alleged perpetrator is said to have shouted "Allahu Akbar" during his attack. There is therefore evidence that the attack was motivated by Islamisms. After his arrest, the perpetrator testified that he had realized his “jihad” with the act, reports “Der Spiegel”. That emerges from an internal authority note. So far, the suspect was not known to the security authorities as an extremist. The alleged perpetrator is said to have been noticed by the police several times because of incidents with knives and until recently was in psychiatric treatment. In the meantime he was forcibly placed in a hospital.


I would argue this way. Religious fanatism reahcing as far as to murder and utmost brutality against people, is a form of madness for sure. You can be mad and an Islamic terrorist at the same time, this is in no way mutually exclusive. One could even argue it is mutally dependent.



My sympathy is limited, I must admit. The Germans wanted to get all these masses of foreigners indiscriminately. They let their leaders get away with channeling them in. They are a growing burden for the social systems, and they boost crime rates and political violence and religious fanatism, and clan crime. The Germans got what they wanted. Congratulations. Dont mourn, be happy.
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Old 06-26-21, 05:58 AM   #3604
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(To the moderator, could not find our terror-thread)
I've merged the threads for you Markus
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Old 08-10-21, 05:36 AM   #3605
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Put this in here to not start another thread.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-new...erior-minister
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A Rwandan national suspected of causing a major fire that ravaged the cathedral in the French city of Nantes last year murdered a Catholic priest in western France on Monday, the interior minister and a source close to the investigation said.

"All my support for the Catholics of our country after the dramatic murder of a priest in the Vendée region," French Interior Minister Gérald Darmanin wrote on Twitter, saying he was heading to the scene.
A source close to the investigation, who asked not to be named, told the AFP that the suspect had earlier gone to police in the town of Mortagne-sur-Sevre and declared he had killed a priest.
The slain priest, 60, had been welcoming the man into his church for several months, according to the source.
The man, a Rwandan national named as Emmanuel A., has confessed to being behind the fire at the Gothic Nantes cathedral that horrified France on July 18, 2020.
He had initially been placed under arrest before being freed under judicial control.
Senator Bruno Retailleau, a conservative who represents the Vendée region, identified the victim as Olivier Maire. He said the local Catholic church had been housing the man.
French President Emmanuel Macron "expressed all his sympathy" to the local religious community of Montfortians while Prime Minister Jean Castex expressed his "deep dismay" over the tragedy.
Earlier on Monday, French far-right leader Marine Le Pen, who accuses the government of being weak on immigration, sought to capitalise on the incident, saying that in France "you can be an illegal migrant, set fire to a cathedral, not be expelled and then reoffend by murdering a priest".
Interior Minister Darmanin immediately accused her of "causing debate without knowing the facts" saying the man could not be expelled from France while he was under judicial supervision.
Immigration is set to be a major issue when Le Pen challenges centrist President Emmanuel Macron for the presidency next year.
Priceless artefacts lost in 2020 blaze
The Nantes blaze came 15 months after the devastating 2019 fire at the Notre-Dame cathedral in Paris, which raised questions about the risks for other historic churches across France.
While firefighters were able to contain the Nantes blaze after just two hours and save the main structure, its famed organ, which dated from 1621 and had survived the French revolution and World War II bombardment, was destroyed.
Also lost were priceless artefacts and paintings, including a work by the 19th-century artist Jean-Hippolyte Flandrin and stained glass windows that contained remnants of 16th-century glass. Repairs are due to take several years.
"All my support for the Catholics of our country after the dramatic murder of a priest in the Vendée region".
French President Emmanuel Macron "expressed all his sympathy".
Prime Minister Jean Castex expressed his "deep dismay" over the tragedy.

Aha.

What comforting signals.

Great relief.

Lets see it this way. Without tragic mishaps like this we would have much less opportunities to wallow in sentimental word mud and cozy pity. And what woukd we do then with our time? Without the tlak shows? Without the "ein Zeichen setzen"?

In France, on yearly average there are 1-2 attacks on and desecration of churches per day. Anti-semite attacks not counted. The poverwhelming majporit,y the huge lion'S share of these attacks are carried out by migrants from mostly if not completely Muslim countries, only a very few are neonazi attacks, these mostly go against Jewish cemeteries and such.

the man could not be expelled from France while he was under judicial supervision.

Scum of the Earth, come all to us, our doors are open and our gates are wide. Our life missionisers and moral world improvers need you to add meaning to their existence by endlessly working on you and nursing you. Our culture becomes so colourful and diverse by your adding of antisocial sentiment and racism and Christophobia.
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Old 08-11-21, 02:19 PM   #3606
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"Interior Minister Darmanin immediately accused her of "causing debate without knowing the facts" saying the man could not be expelled from France while he was under judicial supervision."

What supervision? Giving him the freedom to burn down cathedrals and murder people sure doesn't sound like there was much supervision at all.
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Old 08-12-21, 08:56 AM   #3607
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"Interior Minister Darmanin immediately accused her of "causing debate without knowing the facts" saying the man could not be expelled from France while he was under judicial supervision."

What supervision? Giving him the freedom to burn down cathedrals and murder people sure doesn't sound like there was much supervision at all.
Probably similar to the supervision that Willie Horton was under when he assaulted and raped a woman.
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Old 08-12-21, 10:05 AM   #3608
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I';d like to congratulate Biden for joining the increasing list of world leaders soley responsible for mass genocides. Afghanistan is now full of civilians fleeing terror who will shortly either be executed or seeking asylum in a world over flowing with migrants. Well done Joe, you are joining an exclusive club that has Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin and others in their hallowed ranks.
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Old 08-12-21, 10:26 AM   #3609
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If there is one who should be blamed for the disaster in Afghanistan it can only be President Bush It was him who gave the order to invade. He shall not take the blame himself other leaders from UK, Denmark a.s.o. are to be blamed too.

They rushed into the battlefield without any retreat plans.

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Old 08-12-21, 10:30 AM   #3610
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I agree about the others but at this time, Killer Biden as been on tv saying he does not apologise for puilling the soldiers out. A Brit we are ashamed to say belongs in this exclusive group is Tony Blair. Not only has he been right up behind Bush about Iraq but has screwed UK forever by inviting migrants (all male, under 30s) in, and successive leaders are now to scared to do anything.


edit: history is never taken into consideration. No foreign army has ever won in afghanistan EVER!
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Old 09-16-21, 06:16 AM   #3611
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"The head of the Islamic State group in the Sahara has been killed by French troops, President Emmanuel Macron has said."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-58581122
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If there is one who should be blamed for the disaster in Afghanistan it can only be President Bush It was him who gave the order to invade. He shall not take the blame himself other leaders from UK, Denmark a.s.o. are to be blamed too.

They rushed into the battlefield without any retreat plans.

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They didnt rush in. Nato invoked article 5 in the nato treaty. That is the article committing them to protect each other and setting a spirit of solidarity within the Alliance. Kind of "one for all, all for one" if that gives you a better picture. How can you not understand these things. Do you even know what NATO is?
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I would argue this way. Religious fanatism reahcing as far as to murder and utmost brutality against people, is a form of madness for sure. You can be mad and an Islamic terrorist at the same time, this is in no way mutually exclusive. One could even argue it is mutally dependent.

If its mutally dependent then you remove much of the concern and danger of islamism because you then say a jihadist killingspree is due to madness and can be done by anyone with madness. It just happened coincidently by a muslim on a jihad quest and should therefor not be taken as a reson for the terrorist act but only that it was done in madness. Guess you can argue that way but I dont think its very correct. Maybe political correct..... There might be a different meaning to what you said and im sorry if i misunderstood. Its just I see so much of this line of argument elsewhere. I think I might have misunderstood you.
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"The head of the Islamic State group in the Sahara has been killed by French troops, President Emmanuel Macron has said."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-58581122
Meanwhile, the madness continues where the UK are involved.

Shamima Begum, who left the UK for Syria as a teenager, says she will regret joining the Islamic State group for the rest of her life and has offered to help the UK fight terrorism.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58573501
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Meanwhile, the madness continues where the UK are involved.

Shamima Begum, who left the UK for Syria as a teenager, says she will regret joining the Islamic State group for the rest of her life and has offered to help the UK fight terrorism.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58573501
She can rot in hell. She was observed torturing people and had three kids by three different fathers and all children mysteriously died! Let her rot.
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