Wuhan virus 2020

[ikalugin]

https://www.mos.ru/upload/documents/docs/34-YM.pdf

Moscow is going into the lockdown but it is not yet clear what the sanctions and enforcement will be like.

[Mr Quatro]

Buddahaid and vienna and Aktung could be in this for a long time:

MARCH 19, 2020

CALIFORNIA ISSUES ORDERS FOR RESIDENTS TO STAY HOME

https://www.laweekly.com/california-...all-residents/

Governor Gavin Newsom has issued a stay-at-home order for all residents of California in response to the rapidly growing threat of COVID-19.

The order is indefinite, staying in effect until further notice.

[mapuc]

There are things I really can't figure out in all this.

Lets start with our classic flu.

I remember throughout most of my life where a season was a lot harsher than other years, where almost half of the Swedish or the Danish population was knocked-out by the flu and where hundreds was killed by the flu that season.

I remember a year in my school days, where the entire school was cut down to only 3 classes with different ages of the the student-rest of the students and teachers was knocked-out by the flu.

BUT in none of these situation did Denmark or Sweden order a total lock down of the society.

YES, Corona is more contagious than the flu and yes the death rate seems to be a lot higher than the flu.

They use to develop vaccine to a flu season-which use to help much, little or not having an effect.

Yesterday I was told in our news channel, that this new medicin they are going to test on some very sick Danish patients, have earlier been used on patients who have had Ebola, Sars og Mers with some success.

This have made me wonder, if this Corona is more deadly than we think it is.

I could of course be totally wrong.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

A hospital consultant has become one of the first senior medics in the UK after contracting coronavirus.

The family of Amged El-Hawrani thanked his NHS colleagues for working "tirelessly" to save him.

Mr El-Hawrani's death comes after London-based surgeon Dr Adil El Tayar died last Wednesday.

An ear, nose and throat consultant at the University Hospitals of Derby and Burton, Mr El-Hawrani died at Glenfield Hospital in Leicester, on Saturday.

Another doctor, GP Habib Zaidi, died in intensive care at Southend Hospital, Essex, on Wednesday while being treated for suspected coronavirus.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-52084915

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Buddahaid and vienna and Aktung could be in this for a long time:

MARCH 19, 2020

CALIFORNIA ISSUES ORDERS FOR RESIDENTS TO STAY HOME

https://www.laweekly.com/california-...all-residents/

That's a great order but it directs you to a CISA website that is anything but a simple list of what are the essential services Joe Schmucko can stick in his wallet. I just went to Home Depot this morning to get a can of paint mixed. Is that an essential business? I mean if your plumbing is wrecked it would be.

https://www.cisa.gov/identifying-cri...uring-covid-19

[ikalugin]

Another +20 percent growth in cases today, most (70 percent) of the new cases are in Moscow. This means that we are probably looking at doubling the number of cases every 4 days and now mostly secondary infections within the country. We can look at the US to see how this sort of thing affects a country.

I guess we were a bit late with the quarantine as we would be seeing that growth being maintained over the next days-weeks probably by inertia of already exposed people developing symptoms or being tested.

Othewise from tommorow the city is on the now standard lock down, you are not allowed to go outside unless on urgent business etc. Without it and if the current rates keep up we could be looking at NYC tier problem for Moscow in 2 weeks and the health care system completely overwhelmed in 4.

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Originally Posted by mapuc

They use to develop vaccine to a flu season-which use to help much, little or not having an effect.

Markus, Are you talking about common cold/flu (bleeindg nose, maybe fewer and couching) or influenza (much more serious disease)? They are developing vaccines for influenza, but I'm not aware of major vaccination campaings for common cold.

Originally Posted by mapuc

Yesterday I was told in our news channel, that this new medicin they are going to test on some very sick Danish patients, have earlier been used on patients who have had Ebola, Sars og Mers with some success.

This have made me wonder, if this Corona is more deadly than we think it is.

Here are some statistics:

Disease | Cases | Deaths | Fatality (d/c)

COVID-19 | 712,000+ | 33,500+ | 4,7%
MERS | 2,519 | 866 | 11,5%
SARS | 8,098 | 774 | 9,6%

These are calculated based on Wikipedia data. Keep in mind that at the momen COVID-19 data is incomplete and propably inaccurate. Atleast it seems to be much more contagious than MERS or SARS but we do not yet know how fatal it will be.

I would not draw too much conclusions from medicines that are used. When purpose designed medicine is not available or it does not work, then something else have to tried. For example my migraine medication is combination of blood pressure and epilepsy medication.

[mapuc]

^ It was the influenza I was talking about.

Markus

[Buddahaid]

Let's not lose sight of the fact those other flu's that kill all the seniors in an average year are still with us and now Covid-19 is on top of that. Yes, Covid-19 will take a chunk out of the deaths by the other flu's but it will still strain treatment options for those flu's. Oh yes, and the isolation orders will also help reduce the other flu's.

[Skybird]

First hospital in Germany, in Wolfsburg (home of VW), has declard a patient admission stop due to Corona.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by mapuc

There are things I really can't figure out in all this.

...

YES, Corona is more contagious than the flu and yes the death rate seems to be a lot higher than the flu.

...


This have made me wonder, if this Corona is more deadly than we think it is.

Markus

Sounds like you have a good understanding.

[Mr Quatro]

It was 2,228 deaths when I woke up this morning

United States cases

Updated Mar 29 at 3:57 PM

Confirmed cases 138,879

Deaths 2,438

Say 210 deaths a day plus it doubles every 3 or 4 days = over 3,000 by April 1st Wednesday or is that the total that doubles every three or four days?

[Shearwater]

Something that might be of interest for everyone around here:

I had myself tested yesterday, and it turns out I am positive (i.e. I have the virus).

Basically the only symptom I have was that I lost my sense of smell for a couple of days

This was last Sunday, it's coming back now. It doesn't feel at all like when you can't smell because of a cold, since my nose is completely unobstructed. There was also a slight tingling sensation in and around the nose. Apart from that, I'm feeling fine. I've read that this is not unusual for relatively mild cases.

So - if you're feeling like this, you might want to get tested, if not for yourself, then for those around you.

Stay safe and healthy, and all the best

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Shearwater

Something that might be of interest for everyone around here:

I had myself tested yesterday, and it turns out I am positive (i.e. I have the virus).

Basically the only symptom I have was that I lost my sense of smell for a couple of days

This was last Sunday, it's coming back now. It doesn't feel at all like when you can't smell because of a cold, since my nose is completely unobstructed. There was also a slight tingling sensation in and around the nose. Apart from that, I'm feeling fine. I've read that this is not unusual for relatively mild cases.

So - if you're feeling like this, you might want to get tested, if not for yourself, then for those around you.

Stay safe and healthy, and all the best

Sorry to hear this Shearwater
Hope everything turns out well for you
Keep us posted

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