[WIP] Wolves of the Kaiser:1914-1918 Mod - Page 24

GerritJ9 · 06-04-10, 02:53 AM

If I'm not mistaken, the obsolete "C" class subs were used for the RN's trawler/sub project.

Reece · 06-09-10, 03:36 AM

Interesting segment, can someone tell me the name of this movie:

Deamon · 06-09-10, 09:53 AM

"Lusitania- Murder On The Atlantic"

And while you are at it also don't miss "Britannic"

iambecomelife · 06-09-10, 12:06 PM

"Murder on the Atlantic" is actually the new background video for the SH4 interface, which I already released. Here's the interface mod, if you want to see it:

http://www.filefront.com/15552405/Wo...iser-Intro.7z/

Simply enable with JSGME, and uninstall when you get tired of it!

And thank you, JGerrit, for telling me what type of Brit sub to use.

By the way, the Merchant Fleet Mod has finally been released, so more efforts will be directed towards WOTK. At the moment, I am doing some in-depth reading on early German subs and Brit Armored Cruisers - Really want to play out the "Aboukir", "Cressy", and "Hogue" battle one of these days!

Reece · 06-09-10, 08:14 PM

Thanks guys, going to see if I can buy a DVD!

Reece · 06-12-10, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iambecomelife

At the moment, I am doing some in-depth reading on early German subs and Brit Armored Cruisers - Really want to play out the "Aboukir", "Cressy", and "Hogue" battle one of these days!

A very good book I recommend "From U-Boat to Pulpit" by Martin Niemoller, has some good battles, served on U3, Navigator U73, U39, first officer on U151, UC67 (later commanded). Also another insight is found in the book "Pastor Niemoller" by Dietmar Schmidt. Very good reading even you aren't a Christian and disregard that aspect.

iambecomelife · 06-12-10, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece

A very good book I recommend "From U-Boat to Pulpit" by Martin Niemoller, has some good battles, served on U3, Navigator U73, U39, first officer on U151, UC67 (later commanded). Also another insight is found in the book "Pastor Niemoller" by Dietmar Schmidt. Very good reading even you aren't a Christian and disregard that aspect.

Thanks for the tip.

Random question for the week: Does anyone know the gun distribution for light cruiser "HMS Pathfinder" after her last refit? The profile drawing in Conway's Fighting Ships and my internet sources only seem to show her some years before her sinking, when she didn't have 9 4" guns.

I really wish that Osprey would create more books on WWI ships, like cruisers & DD's - their materials on the Brit & German Battlecruisers have been most helpful. Too bad smaller WWI combatants aren't a popular research topic.

Thanks.

Sailor Steve · 06-13-10, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iambecomelife

Random question for the week: Does anyone know the gun distribution for light cruiser "HMS Pathfinder" after her last refit? The profile drawing in Conway's Fighting Ships and my internet sources only seem to show her some years before her sinking, when she didn't have 9 4" guns.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by your last comment. Do you need the distribution for when she did have nine guns, or for when she didn't.

The only sources I know of are Jane's and Conway. I have an overhead drawing I made for my tabletop game, but I never got as far as upgrades or downgrades. what I have is all nine 4" guns. If that's the wrong one, sorry. If not, I'll be glad to send it to you.

Reece · 06-13-10, 12:19 AM

Yes there is definitely info in "Jane's Fighting Ships of World War One (1919), Jane's Publishing Company" as Steve suggests, I am still searching, so far all I got is:

Did you see here, quite a few pictures: http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.u...S%20Pathfinder
Interesting: http://www.wrecksite.eu/doc/wrecks/t...pathfinder.pdf

iambecomelife · 06-13-10, 01:26 AM

Thanks for the pictures. It's a bit hard for me to estimate the size of the guns based on the pictures, especially around her midships area which was cluttered.

I saw that line drawing earlier and I think it's her original configuration, when she had a mixed armament of 12 12-pdrs (shown in the drawing) and 6 3pdrs (not shown).

I love the bigger pictures , Reece - it's interesting to see she had ventilators (which were probably removed right before the war b/c of splinter hazard). She changed quite a bit in appearance.

Anyway, thanks for the help - I wasn't even expecting a response! And Steve, thanks for the offer - you can send me the pic or just describe the layout.

EDIT: I just read the report - very interesting, and it happens to prove she still had 6 pdrs on board at the time of her loss.

iambecomelife · 06-21-10, 11:35 PM

Well, after much travail I have a model of U-66 almost ready, except for rigging, masts, and some other details. These were a class of boats designed for Austria that ended up being taken over by the Kaiserliche Marine. They were roughly similar to the Type VII in terms of armament and speed, so I imagine they will be popular with players who are used to a WWII setting.

It is a triangulated OBJ file, so I don't anticipate any problems with S3ditor importation. I will see if I can start skinning it tomorrow. My fingers are crossed - I worked hard to make the model amenable to detailed skins!

I've been thinking about placing a static crewmember in the steering position on the conning tower, complete with a trigger that will make him invisible when the sub is submerged - let me know if you have any strong feelings either way about this.

Sailor Steve · 06-22-10, 01:04 AM

These are the pictures I made years ago for my WWI tabletop miniatures game. I used Jane's and Conway, plus some other sources I found at libraries and would have to dig my notes out of storage to remember what they were.

On the right is Pathfinder as I drew her with the nine 4" guns. On the left is my picture of the 'Gem' (Amethyst) class, which mounted 12 4"/40s. It looks an awful lot like the layout of the 'P' class in the drawing found by Reece. It has me wondering if someone somewhere didn't make a mistake back in the day. Sometimes over the years I have hated the dearth of positive information available.

[edit] On the other hand this photo

is clearly Pathfinder's layout, and shows the gun on the bow. Sources say this class had 9 guns, but the contemporary drawing clearly has 12. I did update pages on the ships I worked on, and have three different models for Dreadnought, but I never got past the 'As Launched' stage for these early cruisers.

Reece · 06-22-10, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iambecomelife

I've been thinking about placing a static crewmember in the steering position on the conning tower, complete with a trigger that will make him invisible when the sub is submerged - let me know if you have any strong feelings either way about this.

That is a hard one without seeing it, seems like a lot of work, maybe it can be left till after the release,

would have a better idea then.

Certainly not a game breaker IMO.

Reece · 07-07-10, 09:44 PM

Any progress on this IABL?

not pushing just very interested!

iambecomelife · 07-08-10, 02:16 PM

Yes! I finally got the hull model for a WWI sub in-game (for the Silent Hunter 3 version). Now that I have SH4 reinstalled I hope to import it into that game as well. The game CTD's after I map the textures, but I am sure this can be solved. For now, pictures of the U-66 model (still WIP):

06-04-10, 02:53 AM	#346
GerritJ9 Sonar Guy Join Date: May 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 389 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 6	If I'm not mistaken, the obsolete "C" class subs were used for the RN's trawler/sub project. __________________ Quamvis Patiens Acris My SH3/SH4 mods: http://www.gamefront.com/files/user/GerritJ9

06-09-10, 03:36 AM	#347
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 32,790 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Interesting segment, can someone tell me the name of this movie: __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

06-09-10, 12:06 PM	#349
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,587 Downloads: 297 Uploads: 0	"Murder on the Atlantic" is actually the new background video for the SH4 interface, which I already released. Here's the interface mod, if you want to see it: http://www.filefront.com/15552405/Wo...iser-Intro.7z/ Simply enable with JSGME, and uninstall when you get tired of it! And thank you, JGerrit, for telling me what type of Brit sub to use. By the way, the Merchant Fleet Mod has finally been released, so more efforts will be directed towards WOTK. At the moment, I am doing some in-depth reading on early German subs and Brit Armored Cruisers - Really want to play out the "Aboukir", "Cressy", and "Hogue" battle one of these days! __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

06-09-10, 08:14 PM	#350
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 32,790 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Thanks guys, going to see if I can buy a DVD! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

06-13-10, 12:19 AM	#354
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 32,790 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Yes there is definitely info in "Jane's Fighting Ships of World War One (1919), Jane's Publishing Company" as Steve suggests, I am still searching, so far all I got is: Did you see here, quite a few pictures: http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.u...S%20Pathfinder Interesting: http://www.wrecksite.eu/doc/wrecks/t...pathfinder.pdf __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!* Last edited by Reece; 06-13-10 at 08:21 PM.

06-09-10, 09:53 AM	#348
Deamon Commodore Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 642 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	"Lusitania- Murder On The Atlantic" And while you are at it also don't miss "Britannic"

06-13-10, 01:26 AM	#355
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,587 Downloads: 297 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the pictures. It's a bit hard for me to estimate the size of the guns based on the pictures, especially around her midships area which was cluttered. I saw that line drawing earlier and I think it's her original configuration, when she had a mixed armament of 12 12-pdrs (shown in the drawing) and 6 3pdrs (not shown). I love the bigger pictures , Reece - it's interesting to see she had ventilators (which were probably removed right before the war b/c of splinter hazard). She changed quite a bit in appearance. Anyway, thanks for the help - I wasn't even expecting a response! And Steve, thanks for the offer - you can send me the pic or just describe the layout. EDIT: I just read the report - very interesting, and it happens to prove she still had 6 pdrs on board at the time of her loss. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/ Last edited by iambecomelife; 06-13-10 at 12:24 PM.

06-21-10, 11:35 PM	#356
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,587 Downloads: 297 Uploads: 0	Well, after much travail I have a model of U-66 almost ready, except for rigging, masts, and some other details. These were a class of boats designed for Austria that ended up being taken over by the Kaiserliche Marine. They were roughly similar to the Type VII in terms of armament and speed, so I imagine they will be popular with players who are used to a WWII setting. It is a triangulated OBJ file, so I don't anticipate any problems with S3ditor importation. I will see if I can start skinning it tomorrow. My fingers are crossed - I worked hard to make the model amenable to detailed skins! I've been thinking about placing a static crewmember in the steering position on the conning tower, complete with a trigger that will make him invisible when the sub is submerged - let me know if you have any strong feelings either way about this. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

06-22-10, 01:04 AM	#357
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	These are the pictures I made years ago for my WWI tabletop miniatures game. I used Jane's and Conway, plus some other sources I found at libraries and would have to dig my notes out of storage to remember what they were. On the right is Pathfinder as I drew her with the nine 4" guns. On the left is my picture of the 'Gem' (Amethyst) class, which mounted 12 4"/40s. It looks an awful lot like the layout of the 'P' class in the drawing found by Reece. It has me wondering if someone somewhere didn't make a mistake back in the day. Sometimes over the years I have hated the dearth of positive information available. [edit] On the other hand this photo is clearly Pathfinder's layout, and shows the gun on the bow. Sources say this class had 9 guns, but the contemporary drawing clearly has 12. I did update pages on the ships I worked on, and have three different models for Dreadnought, but I never got past the 'As Launched' stage for these early cruisers. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo Last edited by Sailor Steve; 06-22-10 at 01:31 AM.

07-07-10, 09:44 PM	#359
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 32,790 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Any progress on this IABL? not pushing just very interested! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

07-08-10, 02:16 PM	#360
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,587 Downloads: 297 Uploads: 0	Yes! I finally got the hull model for a WWI sub in-game (for the Silent Hunter 3 version). Now that I have SH4 reinstalled I hope to import it into that game as well. The game CTD's after I map the textures, but I am sure this can be solved. For now, pictures of the U-66 model (still WIP): __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/