US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[mapuc]

This is a US-politic related question

Yesterday one of my FB-friends wrote a very critical comment about Trump's lastest pardoned.

In an answer to him, I wrote
President Obama have pardoned many more and he have changed thousands of criminals prison time(if I understand the following list correct)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_Barack_Obama

Another person, said wiki can't be trusted(Meaning the list is incorrect).

So is this list is incorrect or partial incorrect ?

Markus

[Rockstar]

I too would go with official sources. try this for a start https://www.justice.gov/pardon/obama-pardons

[nikimcbee]

….and now for something completely different.

What do you guys think about this?

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...seek-escape-b/

Curious how New York would split?
Seriously, they should cut OR and WA in half, to re-align politically. Just re-draw the states' boundaries. Have the People's Progressive Utopia to the west and Desert WA-OR.

Say it happens, people vote to leave Ore-gone and join Idaho. What happens if Salem says no? Secede anyway? Trump could just give Cali back to Mexico. Waiting for it to break off and float away isn't happening fast enough.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by u crank

I think at that moment the wheels could come off the Democrat party. Bernie supported Clinton after the 2016 primary. Will he do it again if it is Bloomberg? Will his supporters? Could get really ugly.

This is why Bernie is a hypocrite. He rails about millionaires theN becomes one. Now he rails against billionaires. The lemmings that follow Bernie buy into his nonsense hook, line and sinker. Yeah, Bernie will support the billionaire, the 1% he and Bloomberg are part of. Bernie supporters will not vote Bloomberg. How can they when it is the angry old white men with money they rail against?

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by mapuc

This is a US-politic related question

Yesterday one of my FB-friends wrote a very critical comment about Trump's lastest pardoned.

In an answer to him, I wrote
President Obama have pardoned many more and he have changed thousands of criminals prison time(if I understand the following list correct)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_Barack_Obama

Another person, said wiki can't be trusted(Meaning the list is incorrect).

So is this list is incorrect or partial incorrect ?

Markus

Obama pardoned a boat load. The American's memory is short...very short.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

….and now for something completely different.

What do you guys think about this?

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...seek-escape-b/

Curious how New York would split?
Seriously, they should cut OR and WA in half, to re-align politically. Just re-draw the states' boundaries. Have the People's Progressive Utopia to the west and Desert WA-OR.

Say it happens, people vote to leave Ore-gone and join Idaho. What happens if Salem says no? Secede anyway? Trump could just give Cali back to Mexico. Waiting for it to break off and float away isn't happening fast enough.

Just talk. These states as well as all of them would have a very hard time without federal dollars provide to each every year.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

This is why Bernie is a hypocrite. He rails about millionaires theN becomes one. Now he rails against billionaires. The lemmings that follow Bernie buy into his nonsense hook, line and sinker. Yeah, Bernie will support the billionaire, the 1% he and Bloomberg are part of. Bernie supporters will not vote Bloomberg. How can they when it is the angry old white men with money they rail against?

Yea. If you were a Republican and you could write the script for November 2020, this would be one winning narrative for the GOP. Sanders and all the other candidates who have attacked Bloomberg, (they all have) will be in a bind. Almost everything that they have attacked Trump for, Bloomberg is. But they will almost certainly support him. Especially the Senators. Question is will their followers do the same?

It may be a moot point though because it is looking good for the Democratic Socialist.

Somebody needs to get their email server hacked.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Just talk. These states as well as all of them would have a very hard time without federal dollars provide to each every year.

The US needs California more than California needs the US. I think we are the sixth largest economy in the world.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

The US needs California more than California needs the US. I think we are the sixth largest economy in the world.

Yet CA is a broke state. Let us know how it works out when $436.1 billion is off the table. I suspect the remaining states will be fine with or without CA. In fact, lets just funnel the $436.1 to the other states.



40. California
• Net federal funding: $12 per resident
• Total revenue from fed. gov.: $436.1 billion (the most)
• SNAP benefit recipiency: 8.9 percent (tied - 12th lowest)
• Median household income: $71,805 (8th highest)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ment/39202299/

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Yet CA is a broke state. Let us know how it works out when $436.1 billion is off the table. I suspect the remaining states will be fine with or without CA. In fact, lets just funnel the $436.1 to the other states.



40. California
• Net federal funding: $12 per resident
• Total revenue from fed. gov.: $436.1 billion (the most)
• SNAP benefit recipiency: 8.9 percent (tied - 12th lowest)
• Median household income: $71,805 (8th highest)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ment/39202299/

Pre-data before the flood, the earthquakes and the fires ... California needs America, Californian street people need America, Californian veterans need America.

Heck we all need America to be on the same wave length

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by u crank

Somebody needs to get their email server hacked.

Hey, be careful, that kind of humor can get you impeached!

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Obama pardoned a boat load. The American's memory is short...very short.

This FB-friend of mine, is one of those who dislike Trump, whatever Trump do or do not, this friend post a critical comment about it.

He among thousand others Danish citizens are pro-Obama.

So I search for similar cases when Obama was president and not so far after i had posted the link(same as here in this thread) someone said wiki can't be trusted and this person is somehow right.

Yesterday I posted the other one from the US gov, which Rockstar posted.

Since then I haven't heard anything from that thread.

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by mapuc

This FB-friend of mine, is one of those who dislike Trump, whatever Trump do or do not, this friend post a critical comment about it.

He among thousand others Danish citizens are pro-Obama.

So I search for similar cases when Obama was president and not so far after i had posted the link(same as here in this thread) someone said wiki can't be trusted and this person is somehow right.

Yesterday I posted the other one from the US gov, which Rockstar posted.

Since then I haven't heard anything from that thread.

Markus

Substantiated facts usually end the issue.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Hey, be careful, that kind of humor can get you impeached!

Or Bleachbit.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Or Bleachbit.

If all else fails there is always the analog method ....a hammer.