Malfunctions, SH3CMDR and GWX 3.0

slipper · 08-05-10, 05:14 PM

Hello all,

I am just getting back into SH3 with GWX 3.0, and i understand that the malfunction setting in SH3Cmdr is not to be used due to possible CTD's. I

was wondering if anyone has managed to find any workaround so that some form of malfunctions can be used, maybe via the randomisation folders in SH3Cmdr?

I searched the forums and it seemed LGN was carrying out some work in this area, did anything ever come of it?

would really appreciate any feedback on this

regards

slipper

HW3 · 08-05-10, 08:48 PM

Quote:

i understand that the malfunction setting in SH3Cmdr is not to be used due to possible CTD's.

This is the first time I have heard of this, so I can't help you on this one.

h.sie · 08-06-10, 02:05 AM

Maybe this thread helps:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=157490

Conclusio: If the Hex positions in the data files like

AI_Sensors.dat
GUNS_SUB.sim
Cameras.dat
Sensors.sim
Sensors.dat
NSS_Uboat7b.sim
NSS_Uboat7c.sim
NSS_Uboat9b.sim
NSS_Uboat9c.sim
NSS_Uboat9d2.sim
NSS_Uboat21.sim

have been changed by modders and these changes have not been considered in the Randomized Events.cfg, this MAY lead to a CTD in conjunction with Sabotage & Malfunction.

So it's not the Sh3Cmdr in itself that causes the problems.

JScones · 08-06-10, 02:25 AM

When GWX3 was first released the team hadn't updated the SH3Cmdr config files, thus users were warned not to use the mal/sub option lest they get CTDs.

But that was rectified by the team back in Jan 2009 with the release of updated config files. GWX3 and SH3Cmdr are now fully compatible. If, however, you enable any subsequent mods that have not been "endorsed" by the GWX team, you are on your own...and this includes modifications to files that H.sie refers to above.

slipper · 08-06-10, 05:18 AM

Thanks very much for the replies all.

If then for example i backed up all the following files from my modded game

AI_Sensors.dat
GUNS_SUB.sim
Cameras.dat
Sensors.sim
Sensors.dat
NSS_Uboat7b.sim
NSS_Uboat7c.sim
NSS_Uboat9b.sim
NSS_Uboat9c.sim
NSS_Uboat9d2.sim
NSS_Uboat21.sim

Then selected 'sabotage and malfunctions' from SH3Cmdr. If i then had a problem could i just reinstall my backed up files above, to 'reset' the game? or does it not work like that?

thanks again for your help

regards

slipper

h.sie · 08-06-10, 06:40 AM

You are correct. Use JSGME to install mods. It automatically backs up your original files. If CTD happens, just deinstall the responsible mod via JSGME. Great Tool.

slipper · 08-06-10, 09:04 AM

h.sie and jscones thank you both for your help.

regards

slipper

LGN1 · 08-07-10, 04:56 AM

Hi slipper,

I have created and use a malfunction version that mainly relies on the text files in SH3. Only the u-boats' sim files are touched (these files are not modded that frequently like the camera.dat file). However, I never released the mod for several reasons.

Cheers, LGN1

slipper · 08-07-10, 01:02 PM

LGN

Thanks for the reply, shame you never released your malfunction mod. I'm not that confident on creating my own so i might take a chance with the standard SH3Cmdr files.

regards

slipper

LGN1 · 08-08-10, 06:49 AM

Hi,

I did not release it because it touches the u-boat's sim files and the dials.cfg file which is modded by most GUI mods. Given the fact that a wrong hex offset can lead to a CTD I consider it too risky to release it.

Send you a pm.

Cheers, LGN1

08-05-10, 05:14 PM	#1
slipper Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 174 Downloads: 385 Uploads: 0	Malfunctions, SH3CMDR and GWX 3.0 Hello all, I am just getting back into SH3 with GWX 3.0, and i understand that the malfunction setting in SH3Cmdr is not to be used due to possible CTD's. I was wondering if anyone has managed to find any workaround so that some form of malfunctions can be used, maybe via the randomisation folders in SH3Cmdr? I searched the forums and it seemed LGN was carrying out some work in this area, did anything ever come of it? would really appreciate any feedback on this regards slipper

08-06-10, 02:05 AM	#3
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	Maybe this thread helps: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=157490 Conclusio: If the Hex positions in the data files like AI_Sensors.dat GUNS_SUB.sim Cameras.dat Sensors.sim Sensors.dat NSS_Uboat7b.sim NSS_Uboat7c.sim NSS_Uboat9b.sim NSS_Uboat9c.sim NSS_Uboat9d2.sim NSS_Uboat21.sim have been changed by modders and these changes have not been considered in the Randomized Events.cfg, this MAY lead to a CTD in conjunction with Sabotage & Malfunction. So it's not the Sh3Cmdr in itself that causes the problems. __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie Last edited by h.sie; 08-06-10 at 02:23 AM.

08-06-10, 06:40 AM	#6
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	You are correct. Use JSGME to install mods. It automatically backs up your original files. If CTD happens, just deinstall the responsible mod via JSGME. Great Tool. __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

08-06-10, 02:25 AM	#4
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	When GWX3 was first released the team hadn't updated the SH3Cmdr config files, thus users were warned not to use the mal/sub option lest they get CTDs. But that was rectified by the team back in Jan 2009 with the release of updated config files. GWX3 and SH3Cmdr are now fully compatible. If, however, you enable any subsequent mods that have not been "endorsed" by the GWX team, you are on your own...and this includes modifications to files that H.sie refers to above.

08-06-10, 05:18 AM	#5
slipper Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 174 Downloads: 385 Uploads: 0	Thanks very much for the replies all. If then for example i backed up all the following files from my modded game AI_Sensors.dat GUNS_SUB.sim Cameras.dat Sensors.sim Sensors.dat NSS_Uboat7b.sim NSS_Uboat7c.sim NSS_Uboat9b.sim NSS_Uboat9c.sim NSS_Uboat9d2.sim NSS_Uboat21.sim Then selected 'sabotage and malfunctions' from SH3Cmdr. If i then had a problem could i just reinstall my backed up files above, to 'reset' the game? or does it not work like that? thanks again for your help regards slipper

08-06-10, 09:04 AM	#7
slipper Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 174 Downloads: 385 Uploads: 0	h.sie and jscones thank you both for your help. regards slipper

08-07-10, 04:56 AM	#8
LGN1 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,138 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 12	Hi slipper, I have created and use a malfunction version that mainly relies on the text files in SH3. Only the u-boats' sim files are touched (these files are not modded that frequently like the camera.dat file). However, I never released the mod for several reasons. Cheers, LGN1

08-07-10, 01:02 PM	#9
slipper Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 174 Downloads: 385 Uploads: 0	LGN Thanks for the reply, shame you never released your malfunction mod. I'm not that confident on creating my own so i might take a chance with the standard SH3Cmdr files. regards slipper

08-08-10, 06:49 AM	#10
LGN1 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,138 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 12	Hi, I did not release it because it touches the u-boat's sim files and the dials.cfg file which is modded by most GUI mods. Given the fact that a wrong hex offset can lead to a CTD I consider it too risky to release it. Send you a pm. Cheers, LGN1