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Old 07-12-21, 01:52 PM   #301
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^ It was the only negative before and after the Final yesterday.
What made me most sad was all this racism and threats against these three English player.
I truly hope they will catch these low life people and let them get the strongest punishment there is. It's totally disgraceful

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Old 07-12-21, 02:10 PM   #302
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Put it this way Markus....they've certainly done the country they support any favours in the eyes of the sporting world.
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Old 07-12-21, 02:14 PM   #303
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Old 07-13-21, 06:39 AM   #304
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I deal in cold hard facts matey, there's no hate involved, I was just trying to put a dampener on all the media hype proclaiming that "Footballs Coming Home" that's all, I see you fell for it "Hook Line and Sinker". I remember Sven-Göran Eriksson being England manager and, from what I've seen and heard England have turned full circle to that era. Eriksson wasted the golden generations opportunities with defensive tactics and, Southgate will do the same to this team.

1) Tactics, Southgate has never let his young lions off the leash for even one game, why not?, because he's scared of losing, how the hell can he know what his best formation is if he doesn't let them loose for once, so England lose a match, so what, at least he'll find out what they're capable of. The best form of defence is attack, but it seems Southgate doesn't know that.

2) Possession, England 35% Italy 65%, that's not the players fault its Southgate's fault, he is the coach and everything that goes right or wrong on that pitch is his to own, Southgate will win what Eriksson won if he doesn't change things around, nothing, zero, zilch.

3) Penalties, whoever put that much pressure on a 19 year old's shoulders by having him take the 5th penalty wants their head examining. Where were Sterling, Grealish and Stones, oh yeah, hiding behind a 19 year old kiddie and Southgate let them, Shocking!!!!. Southgate needed to show some ruthless leadership, he should have grabbed those three by the scruff of the neck and told them they're taking a penalty whether they like it or not.

4) The biggest clowns in all of this are the England fans, yet again they've fallen for all that overblown media hype, "Footballs Coming Home", no it isn't, "Footballs Coming Rome".
Please don't insult my intelligence by suggesting I've fallen for your hook line sinker comment. Dampening media hype as you call it is no excuse for calling the England team "overpaid knee bending puffs" that is insulting to the stance on "Black lives matter" and Homophobic. That is just 1 example

Very few if any of your posts deal in facts a string of insults is more like it you cannot pass off things as facts which are merely your opinion and rubbishing the comments of others which does not fit your agenda. Merely doing it now for the first time is neither credible or adequate

Try to use persuasion and logic to get your point over in a civil and respectful way avoid using insults, a trap which even the best of us can fall into.

Demonstrate maturity and an objective point of view

Use your grasp of the English language to express yourself not use terms like " Boring Tw*t" What has poor English snooker legend Steve Davis done to deserve that ?

Social media is not a platform for forcing your opinion onto others do not confuse facts with opinion.Think before engaging your keyboard of the consequences of your post and how they may be interpreted Work on improving your communication with others do some soul searching, I've been doing it for years and I am still learning.

The England fans are obviously disappointed give them a break. After all that has been said you still not help yourself by describing them as clowns its nothing to do with media hype its patriotism the love of football. This is a Footballing nation. Football coming home is just a song to express that nothing more. I think England will do well in the next world cup.

Does that make me a "Clown" from "Cuckooland"? I fear I may be talking to deaf ears.

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"Mediawatch special: The Sun’s anti-racism conversion"

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For me Euro 2020 is over and I'm turning my view to Tokyo. Less than 14 days to the Olympic games.

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Those fans are doing themselves and their country no favours at all.

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Uefa has opened disciplinary proceedings into security breaches at the Euro 2020 final at Wembley.

Fans fought with stewards and police as they attempted to break through gates for Sunday's showcase event.

Football Association chief executive Mark Bullingham apologised to legitimate fans and said the security team had "never seen anything like it".
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/57823364
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Harry Maguire's father Alan suffered two suspected broken ribs before England's Euro 2020 final defeat by Italy, says the England defender.

Fans fought with stewards and police as they attempted to break through gates for Sunday's game at Wembley.

Maguire's father, 56, was "struggling to breathe" after being trampled on.

"My dad was in the stampede," Maguire told the Sun. "It was not a nice experience - it shook him up. He said he was scared."
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For once I'm struggling to comment. I think a lot of the scenes we have witnessed from footage around the whole country not just London are typical individuals we see fighting in our towns and cities leaving pubs and clubs at night and are jumping on the back of football to unleash their violent nature. I would like to say its a tiny majority but that appears not to be the case.

Its the mentality of the school yard but I'm not sure if school yards are still as remembered back in the day

All the good that comes this event is overshadowed by mindless people ( I find it hard to call them fans ) who cannot see the harm this does to our national reputation the risk of someone getting seriously hurt or worse. The consequences could well possibly be that they never see England host a major championship in their life time. I doubt that concerns them

What is the solution ? I really don't know

I normally fly the flag for England but its at half mast at the moment

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Old 07-15-21, 12:07 PM   #310
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One possible solution might be if the majority of well behaved fans took it upon themselves to 'Police' the minority causing this mayhem but public order would obviously suffer as a consequence.

Truth be told, there probably isn't a workable solution.
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Sorry didn't know where to post this interesting youtube clip.

It shows that there are fair penalty in the world.



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