20th Anniversary of the 9/11 and World trade center attacks

Commander Wallace · 09-11-21, 06:46 AM

It has been 20 years since the World Trade Center attacks. While the World Trade Centers have been rebuilt, The loss of life by the first responders, and police, paramedics, firemen, passengers and air crews on the aircraft can't be replaced. 2977 were killed altogether, 2,753 at what has been called ground zero. This does not include those lost from disease. This is a larger number of casualties than at the attacks on pearl Harbor on December 7th of 1941.

The rate of attrition among the surviving responders and clean up crews has been terrible and appalling as those responders were exposed to varying levels of toxicity and debris from the ruins.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...remonies-biden

Although the attacks on 9/11 were terrible, It also showed the incredible courage and integrity and sense of duty and honor of the first responders.

May those lost rest in peace and the sacrifices of those lost and the first responders never be forgotten.

Platapus · 09-11-21, 10:30 AM

Firefighters and other First Responders run toward that which the rest of us want to run away from.

Jimbuna · 09-11-21, 11:37 AM

Was wondering if and when this thread would appear

UK tv is all over it on most channels and I never realised we lost somewhere in the region of 67 of our own nationals.

90 countries lost nationals.

May ALL who were taken on this infamous day rest in peace.

mapuc · 09-11-21, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Was wondering if and when this thread would appear

UK tv is all over it on most channels and I never realised we lost somewhere in the region of 67 of our own nationals.

90 countries lost nationals.

May they all rest in peace.

I was thinking on starting a thread in memory-I didn't I was afraid the thread would turn into turmoil.

I say the same

May they all rest in Peace

Markus

Jeff-Groves · 09-11-21, 02:09 PM

Many recall the Dunkirk evacuation during WWII and what that involved.
9/11 the mass evacuation by boat beat that! Citizens doing just the same as was done at Dunkirk.
My hat is off to that reaction by people that just did what they thought right at the moment!

Commander Wallace · 09-11-21, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

I was thinking on starting a thread in memory-I didn't I was afraid the thread would turn into turmoil.

I say the same

May they all rest in Peace

Markus

You would have been more than welcome to start a thread, Markus. You are an integral part of Subsim and it hardly matters that you don't reside in the U.S.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Was wondering if and when this thread would appear

UK tv is all over it on most channels and I never realised we lost somewhere in the region of 67 of our own nationals.

90 countries lost nationals.

May ALL who were taken on this infamous day rest in peace.

Very sorry for the losses suffered by the U.K and other countries as well.

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Firefighters and other First Responders run toward that which the rest of us want to run away from.

You said it all.

And, well said, Jeff.

Jeff-Groves · 09-11-21, 03:01 PM

I have to say one thing though.
That was the Day the word and meaning of Hero was cheapened.
Yes. The Fire Fighters and all others that went in were Heros.
That didn't make a Fire Fighter in Nowhere town, USA a 1000 miles away an automatic Hero.
Just like I'm not a Hero for just being in the Army and jumping out of areoplanes.
Jimbuna was a copper in the UK. I have no idea if he's a Hero or feels like one.
Maybe he feels like I do. We were just doing a job we signed up to do.
I'm sure he knows people he'd call Hero. Just as I do.
Don't ever call me a Hero for doing what I did. That title is earned. Not given.

Commander Wallace · 09-11-21, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

I have to say one thing though.
That was the Day the word and meaning of Hero was cheapened.
Yes. The Fire Fighters and all others that went in were Heros.
That didn't make a Fire Fighter in Nowhere town, USA a 1000 miles away an automatic Hero.
Just like I'm not a Hero for just being in the Army and jumping out of areoplanes.
Jimbuna was a copper in the UK. I have no idea if he's a Hero or feels like one.
Maybe he feels like I do. We were just doing a job we signed up to do.
I'm sure he knows people he'd call Hero. Just as I do.
Don't ever call me a Hero for doing what I did. That title is earned. Not given.

I think the word hero applies in this instance, Jeff. These first responders knew this was a dire situation. They continued into the 2nd tower even after the first tower collapsed. These first responders knew their life was in jeopardy and still put others they didn't even know ahead of their own safety and lives in trying to save as many as they could.

By the way Jeff. Maybe I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure you and Jim earned that at some point, even if you don't think so. It's a respect thing. Perhaps hero might not be the right word but certainly reverence for those that have served would absolutely apply or maybe just simple respect.

Kaye T. Bai · 09-11-21, 03:29 PM

20 years already; seems just like yesterday to me.

em2nought · 09-11-21, 04:16 PM

What people always seem to forget is that our government's messing around in other countries when our government has no idea what it's doing is what gets us into these messes to begin with.

We're probably gonna piss off climate change next.

Arlo · 09-11-21, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by em2nought

We're probably gonna piss off climate change next.

Gonna?

Platapus · 09-12-21, 04:21 AM

And a big salute to the citizens of Canada. I will never forget Operation Yellow Ribbon. I am deeply grateful for the generosity of the government and citizens of Canada.

Jimbuna · 09-12-21, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

I have to say one thing though.
That was the Day the word and meaning of Hero was cheapened.
Yes. The Fire Fighters and all others that went in were Heros.
That didn't make a Fire Fighter in Nowhere town, USA a 1000 miles away an automatic Hero.
Just like I'm not a Hero for just being in the Army and jumping out of areoplanes.
Jimbuna was a copper in the UK. I have no idea if he's a Hero or feels like one.
Maybe he feels like I do. We were just doing a job we signed up to do.
I'm sure he knows people he'd call Hero. Just as I do.
Don't ever call me a Hero for doing what I did. That title is earned. Not given.

09-11-21, 06:46 AM	#1
Commander Wallace Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Under the sea in an Octupus garden in the shade Posts: 5,017 Downloads: 360 Uploads: 0	20th Anniversary of the 9/11 and World trade center attacks It has been 20 years since the World Trade Center attacks. While the World Trade Centers have been rebuilt, The loss of life by the first responders, and police, paramedics, firemen, passengers and air crews on the aircraft can't be replaced. 2977 were killed altogether, 2,753 at what has been called ground zero. This does not include those lost from disease. This is a larger number of casualties than at the attacks on pearl Harbor on December 7th of 1941. The rate of attrition among the surviving responders and clean up crews has been terrible and appalling as those responders were exposed to varying levels of toxicity and debris from the ruins. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...remonies-biden Although the attacks on 9/11 were terrible, It also showed the incredible courage and integrity and sense of duty and honor of the first responders. May those lost rest in peace and the sacrifices of those lost and the first responders never be forgotten.

09-11-21, 10:30 AM	#2
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 18,971 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Firefighters and other First Responders run toward that which the rest of us want to run away from. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

09-11-21, 11:37 AM	#3
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,344 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Was wondering if and when this thread would appear UK tv is all over it on most channels and I never realised we lost somewhere in the region of 67 of our own nationals. 90 countries lost nationals. May ALL who were taken on this infamous day rest in peace. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

09-11-21, 02:09 PM	#5
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,321 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	Many recall the Dunkirk evacuation during WWII and what that involved. 9/11 the mass evacuation by boat beat that! Citizens doing just the same as was done at Dunkirk. My hat is off to that reaction by people that just did what they thought right at the moment! __________________ I don't do Stupid. So don't ask.

09-11-21, 03:01 PM	#7
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,321 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	I have to say one thing though. That was the Day the word and meaning of Hero was cheapened. Yes. The Fire Fighters and all others that went in were Heros. That didn't make a Fire Fighter in Nowhere town, USA a 1000 miles away an automatic Hero. Just like I'm not a Hero for just being in the Army and jumping out of areoplanes. Jimbuna was a copper in the UK. I have no idea if he's a Hero or feels like one. Maybe he feels like I do. We were just doing a job we signed up to do. I'm sure he knows people he'd call Hero. Just as I do. Don't ever call me a Hero for doing what I did. That title is earned. Not given. __________________ I don't do Stupid. So don't ask. Last edited by Jeff-Groves; 09-11-21 at 03:11 PM.

09-11-21, 03:29 PM	#9
Kaye T. Bai Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Western Hemisphere, Earth, Milky Way Galaxy, Local Group, Virgo Supercluster Posts: 584 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	20 years already; seems just like yesterday to me.

09-11-21, 04:16 PM	#10
em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,285 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What people always seem to forget is that our government's messing around in other countries when our government has no idea what it's doing is what gets us into these messes to begin with. We're probably gonna piss off climate change next. __________________ ISRAEL: Essentially "The Alamo" 24/7, 365 since 1947 Last edited by em2nought; 09-11-21 at 04:17 PM. Reason: off

09-12-21, 04:21 AM	#12
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 18,971 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	And a big salute to the citizens of Canada. I will never forget Operation Yellow Ribbon. I am deeply grateful for the generosity of the government and citizens of Canada. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.