Some OM questions..please help.

[Bubblehead1980]

Anyone know when the escorts get tougher? I am in October 41 now in the Atlantic.Even with the L2 harder escort mod, they are weak sisters, suppose I am used to TMO escorts.Allied escorts are supposed to be tough.

Which flotillas operate in med and indian ocean? 29th for med and ? Also, when do escorts get the hedgehog? When do enemy planes have homing torpedos?

Seems on manual targeting I am getting a lot of misses.I calculate speed by tracking a target from one mark on the map for 3 minutes 15 seconds then mark current position. I get hits but some misses which is quite aggravating as in the PTO the 3 minute mark to mark rule works just fine.

Is there traffic in the Gulf of Mexico?


Anyone know a good sound mod made for OM? I read EAX worked but it caused a lot of stability problems but I had to use the stock version as did not see an OM version.

Anyone know how to make the interior free cam like TMO? Hate the the cam in OM as if you go outside to look boat over and were in the conning tower, it defaults to the control room.

[Stealhead]

Not sure on the escorts I do not run the harder escorts mod myself and I find the OM AI to be as hard or harder than TMO.This might be because I am just used to the AI of TMO though because I find TMOs AI to be real bloodhounds if they manage to spot you other wise they seem pretty easy to slink away from.

Seems to me like the OM AI is a little smarter with depth charge patterns as well they drop 3 or 4 each one progressively deeper where as in TMO it seems they tend to drop more but much closer together so if they have your depth shallow they miss.In TMO I used to listen for an escort to start making a run as soon as heard the splash I'd would go to ahead flank to avoid the pattern.I have found this to be a very bad tactic in OM you do this in OM and the other escorts peg you hard.The hedgehogs show up in early 43 I think.

There is traffic in the Gulf of Mexico or at least I have found it there I have found ships off of Key West and also Tampa all along the Florida coast ships are there just more sparse.If they send me to east coast waters I get close to the coast and just sit and listen with the hydrophones manually because you can hear things the AI soundman cant I just slow tC and check every 30 minutes almost every night/morning I found a ship sometimes 3 within 20 miles bam,bam,bam that was off the coast of the Carolinas though.I real life a ship got nailed a mere 5 miles from Mayport Jax in may of 42 several got sunk about 20~30 miles below New Orleans during the war.


Not sure with your manual targeting problem I miss alot from longer ranges so I try to get within 2000m or less and try to get 90 I get hits about 80% of the time that way.Have looked at this thread? it goes into some detail about the optional mods for OM that relate to the TDC and other targeting tools: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=152590

Also Uboat.net is a great site on U-boats you can spend hours on there just going though the list of ships sunk.

http://www.uboat.net/

I have not messed around with any sound mod for OM myself.

I have seen some others have the free cam problem as well for me the free cam behaves just like it does in TMO I just click on the screen and use the arrow keys and not clicking will move as well but more limited I think this feature was added but never mentioned in the notes.If you dislike where they make you stand in the control room(I do) there is an easy cure to this simply start from the bridge and right click you will move to the conning tower right click again and you are in the control room when you get to it this way the camera will stay in the spot you placed it for some reason when you F2 it does not while submerged just click on the conning tower and right click.

Flotillas

1st Kiel,Brest(II,VII)
2nd Wilhelmshaven,Lorient(XI)
3rd La Rochelle(II,VII)
4th training
5th training
6th St.Nazaire(VII)
7th St.Nazaire(VII)
8th Danzing
9th Brest (VII)
10th Lorient (IX)
11th Bergen (VII,XXIII,XXI)
12th Bordeaux (IX)
13th Trondhiem (VII)
14th Narvik (VII)
18,19,20,21,22 training
23rd Salamis (med)(VII)
,24,25,26,27 training
29th La Spezia (med)(VII)
30th Constanza (Black sea) (II)

Not sure on operation monsoon boats but they start in Lorinet or asia.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Not sure on the escorts I do not run the harder escorts mod myself and I find the OM AI to be as hard or harder than TMO.This might be because I am just used to the AI of TMO though because I find TMOs AI to be real bloodhounds if they manage to spot you other wise they seem pretty easy to slink away from.

Seems to me like the OM AI is a little smarter with depth charge patterns as well they drop 3 or 4 each one progressively deeper where as in TMO it seems they tend to drop more but much closer together so if they have your depth shallow they miss.In TMO I used to listen for an escort to start making a run as soon as heard the splash I'd would go to ahead flank to avoid the pattern.I have found this to be a very bad tactic in OM you do this in OM and the other escorts peg you hard.The hedgehogs show up in early 43 I think.

There is traffic in the Gulf of Mexico or at least I have found it there I have found ships off of Key West and also Tampa all along the Florida coast ships are there just more sparse.If they send me to east coast waters I get close to the coast and just sit and listen with the hydrophones manually because you can hear things the AI soundman cant I just slow tC and check every 30 minutes almost every night/morning I found a ship sometimes 3 within 20 miles bam,bam,bam that was off the coast of the Carolinas though.I real life a ship got nailed a mere 5 miles from Mayport Jax in may of 42 several got sunk about 20~30 miles below New Orleans during the war.


Not sure with your manual targeting problem I miss alot from longer ranges so I try to get within 2000m or less and try to get 90 I get hits about 80% of the time that way.Have looked at this thread? it goes into some detail about the optional mods for OM that relate to the TDC and other targeting tools: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=152590

Also Uboat.net is a great site on U-boats you can spend hours on there just going though the list of ships sunk.

http://www.uboat.net/

I have not messed around with any sound mod for OM myself.

I have seen some others have the free cam problem as well for me the free cam behaves just like it does in TMO I just click on the screen and use the arrow keys and not clicking will move as well but more limited I think this feature was added but never mentioned in the notes.If you dislike where they make you stand in the control room(I do) there is an easy cure to this simply start from the bridge and right click you will move to the conning tower right click again and you are in the control room when you get to it this way the camera will stay in the spot you placed it for some reason when you F2 it does not while submerged just click on the conning tower and right click.

Flotillas

1st Kiel,Brest(II,VII)
2nd Wilhelmshaven,Lorient(XI)
3rd La Rochelle(II,VII)
4th training
5th training
6th St.Nazaire(VII)
7th St.Nazaire(VII)
8th Danzing
9th Brest (VII)
10th Lorient (IX)
11th Bergen (VII,XXIII,XXI)
12th Bordeaux (IX)
13th Trondhiem (VII)
14th Narvik (VII)
18,19,20,21,22 training
23rd Salamis (med)(VII)
,24,25,26,27 training
29th La Spezia (med)(VII)
30th Constanza (Black sea) (II)

Not sure on operation monsoon boats but they start in Lorinet or asia.

Thanks for the info.I have been reading when I can on UBOAT.net, great site.but definitely a lot to learn about the ATO and U Boats as PTO has always been my area of study.

[Stealhead]

I spent an hour or so on U-boat.net the other night looking through the list of sunken and damaged ships I was looking through the list of American vessels it was very interesting they have good amount of data what the cargo was even the names of people on the vessel at the time of sinking/damaging very interesting.

I had heard about the Mayport sinking from my grandmother who was living in Florida at the time that ship was the Gulfamerica she was owned by Gulf Oil and she was on her first voyage and her last.

Another interesting thing is that many of the US merchants where made in Mobile Alabama of the ones I looked at at least and there are a few thousand.

I have been into OM for so long I can t quite recall what I do different targeting wise from TMO but the German TDC is a little different and you have to be much better at telling the AOB as well the US TDC helps a bit with this with the visual icons on the dials.Of course it sounds like you judge that your speed estimation is the problem I would say lower the time between estimations.

[steevo45]

Hiya all,
Just installed OM but finding the escorts to easy to deceive!
Can't find a download link to download the harder escort mods.
Could someone send me a link.
many thanks