[REL] Multiple UIs for SH5 with TDC

[ACSoft]

Originally Posted by Wolfling04

I was looking at the fact that you edited one of TDW's files, then published the download link here in his thread.

I was just looking out for ya, but I guess TDW will be the ultimate judge on it.

Anyways happy hunting

The law is the law, like say the stupid decerebrated policeman walking on the street.

By the way, are-you a policeman ?

edit: lol by one minute

ACS

[Wolfling04]

No I am not a policeman, I was simply trying to help you out. With no bad intentions intended.

Instead I will say this, then leave this subject for TDW to make the final determination.

By modifying one of his files, then publishing your modified file in his thread with out his permission, unless you have it and just have not stated so, is a blatant and utter disregard and violation of his copyright.

This is how I see this if I am wrong please correct me.

[joegrundman]

Originally Posted by Abd_von_Mumit

Wow, what a visit! Hello Joe, very nice to see you here with us.

Now that I look at the pointers by the half-ship silhouettes, I see what you mean. As I learn working with graphics recently, I could try to move them a bit further from the center. If the result is satisfactory, I'll share it.

Is there any chance you could share your original set of files (the curves, layers and so on) of the disc?


I must say your Attack Disc was one of the most important additions to SH3 for me. I enjoyed learning and using it, admired effort of those who made it possible and I am still plain astonished by the quality of this work. Compared to ANY US Is-Was I saw in download section (and there are a few) the Kriegsmarine one is a masterpiece. Thank you for that, very much.

Thanks for the greetings Abd_von_Mumit - it's good to see you around again too

Unfortunately the original photoshop files for the Attack Disk, sliderule and RAOBF are long gone, as a result of a severe PC crash a couple of years ago.

The U-jagd tools mod, even though surprisingly few know it by that name, has proven to be very influential!

But for some reason, TDW has decided to use my files without any siginificant changes, except stuck a sort of WoW central knob on it. Also the sliderule files he's used were not the 'weathered' ones used in U-jagd, but seem to be the simple colour files made by Hitman for printing. It looks strange like that on screen, much better to use the weathered ones from U-jagd, like the Attack Disk

[ACSoft]

Originally Posted by Wolfling04

No I am not a policeman, I was simply trying to help you out. With no bad intentions intended.

Instead I will say this, then leave this subject for TDW to make the final determination.

By modifying one of his files, then publishing your modified file in his thread with out his permission, unless you have it and just have not stated so, is a blatant and utter disregard and violation of his copyright.

This is how I see this if I am wrong please correct me.

I totally disagree with you.

What I have done is NOT a "blatant and utter disregard and violation of his copyright". This is how I see this and if I am wrong, the last person who has the right to correct me, is not you, but TDW.

If TDW feel offended by the fact I gave access to just one modified script for obvious tests purpose reasons, maybe, even for the benefit of his newUIs TDC mod future developments, he will tell me. If this happen, I will appologize and immediately delete this test zip.

Sorry, but I also have great doubts that your real intention behind your intervention was to help me, as you pretend.

Now, if you are the kind of person who always wan't to have the last word, feel free to add a further answer claiming I am wrong and you are right. For me, personnaly, the incident is closed. I have better things to do than to loose my time on that.

ACS

[TheDarkWraith]

I'm ok with the modifying of my files for testing purposes as long as they are posted in the same thread that they were found and contain my copyright info and starting headers as found. What ACS did was ok with me since he posted his change in this thread. There might be some people who would prefer to use the attack disc without TDC on and he made that available to those people to test. If the results of this test are that many people want this then I would have to consider changing the code to reflect this

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by ACSoft

I think I found a bug:

In both navigation map and combat map, when I select a waypoint inside a path made of multiple waypoints and then, I press the keyboard key "delete" to remove it, the waypoint is removed as expected, but I loose almost all the UI interface.

By the way, I am still wondering why (my message: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=4183 point #1), with all option set to avoid the horrible XO officer Dialog box, I have to select-deselect several times a target, to finally not see anymore this dialog box poping around.

I will look into this tomorrow

[Meldric]

I do not see the button for the Attack-Disc... I am wondering if I am doing something wrong. I have enabled it in the optionfile but I do not even see it anywhere... Is it only visible when there is an enemy locked?

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by Meldric

I do not see the button for the Attack-Disc... I am wondering if I am doing something wrong. I have enabled it in the optionfile but I do not even see it anywhere... Is it only visible when there is an enemy locked?

it is located below the RAOBF button in the torpedo extra controls box. It will only be visible if you have TDC on (XO TDC Dialog box 1. Turn TDC On)

[Wolfling04]

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

I'm ok with the modifying of my files for testing purposes as long as they are posted in the same thread that they were found and contain my copyright info and starting headers as found. What ACS did was ok with me since he posted his change in this thread. There might be some people who would prefer to use the attack disc without TDC on and he made that available to those people to test. If the results of this test are that many people want this then I would have to consider changing the code to reflect this

I stand corrected,

Therefore I must apologize to you ACS and hope there are no hard feelings as there are none on this side.

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by Wolfling04

I stand corrected,

Therefore I must apologize to you ACS and hope there are no hard feelings as there are none on this side.

thanks for looking out for me also. I don't think ACS will have any hard feelings as I'm sure he'd appreciate others looking out for him and pointing out something that they feel is possibly incorrect/wrong also

[ACSoft]

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

thanks for looking out for me also. I don't think ACS will have any hard feelings as I'm sure he'd appreciate others looking out for him and pointing out something that they feel is possibly incorrect/wrong also

Wolfling04, I don't have any hard feelings. Anybody, starting with me, can do an error.

I am a freeware developer myself (see for example: http://www.acsoft.ch/amso/amso.html, my current work). So I am sensitive to these Copyrights matters. Like say TDW, I would appreciate, if others are looking this out for me.

Wolfling04, in this case, what was wrong, to my modest opinion, was the method you employed. Next time, be more cautious and give the benefit of the doubt. Use private messaging to warn him or even directly the owner of the Copyrights. The owner is the right person to intervent publically on the forum thread.

ACS

[Robin40]

Originally Posted by eon850aye

Well you sunk my battleship with that torpedo
not sure what else it could be...

Edit: @ Robin
I think I've found it...

open up the UserOptions.py file
scroll down to the "XO TDC Dialog box (SH3/4/5 modes)" section,
look for
# is manual targeting enforced? If True then the option to 'Turn TDC Off' is disabled and not visible
# change below to either True or False
XOTDCManualTargetingEnforced = True

If that is True, then I think that is your problem, mine is set at False.

thx buddy...it was set at True, I set it at False

....but it doesn't work (line 1,2,3 box checked)

Now I say: why was it set at True, when you check the 1,2,3 line?

It looks like a bug

Moreover, why was it your Pyton line set at False and mine at True?

Moreover, I don't see the lock icon in the TDC when I press the spacebar to lock on target

[ACSoft]

Originally Posted by Abd_von_Mumit

- Attack Disc's Compass Rose (B-Ring) is only able to indicate bearings of range 180-360, for any 0 < bearing < 180 it stops on 0.

Hi Abd_von_Mumit,

In the meaning trying to figure out what's wrong with the Attack Disc and how it is working, I printed the "Kriegsmarine Angriffsscheibe Handbuch", red the beginning and tried to do "Example 1".

It was OK with point 1 (disc C to point 135 deg), then, they say to turn pointer D to 22.5 deg, but I can't figure out how to do that !!! When I try, "everything" is moving ?!?

The problem is that the manual do not explain how should work "mechanically" this device (which part should move and how), so I have no idea if the actual behaviors, where obviously only indicators and none of the disc themselves can move, are correct.

As you are apparently the "Attack disc specialist" can-you enlight us a bit about these matters ?

Thanks in forward !

ACS

[Robin40]

Originally Posted by eon850aye

Well you sunk my battleship with that torpedo
not sure what else it could be...

Edit: @ Robin
I think I've found it...

open up the UserOptions.py file
scroll down to the "XO TDC Dialog box (SH3/4/5 modes)" section,
look for
# is manual targeting enforced? If True then the option to 'Turn TDC Off' is disabled and not visible
# change below to either True or False
XOTDCManualTargetingEnforced = True

If that is True, then I think that is your problem, mine is set at False.

gotcha it! gotcha it!

I was using the the 4.0.3 version (well the only available in the download section....but why not posting the new version in the dowload section?)

downloaded version 4.3.1

modified Python line XOTDCManualTargetingEnforced = False

modified Python line to ShowLockBreakLock = True

checked box 1,2,3 line in TAI Features

thx buddy for your help

you got me emerged to a new SH5 life

[Robin40]

Plz upload new version 4.3.1 in the download section