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Catching up...
Re: Epstein... My very first thought the second I heard the news about his death was, "Oh great, now we're going to have all the tinfoil hats of both ends of the wingnut scale coming out of the woodwork." I'm waiting for the investigations to complete before I make a final opinion, but I do want to throw this into the pot: what if it wasn't any of the purported outside interests who 'engineered' Epstein's demise, but, rather, Epstein pulling his own 'Hermann Göring', bribing the guards to look the other way while he took his exit? Maybe it was no one's fault but his... By any means, good riddance to some very bad rubbish... Re; The Southern Strategy... Racism and bigotry knows no strict assignment of political, social, economic, racial, religious, etc., provenance nor sustenance. There's plenty of blame to be spread around and, no matter who engages in such deplorable activity, it is morally and legally repugnant. As far as the Strategy is concerned, if it didn't exist, then why did the GOP, via its then Chairman, Ken Mehlman, in 2005, in a speech to the NAACP Convention,apologize for the GOP's politicization of the race issue in the period following the passage of the Civil Rights Act? If there was no de facto organized effort to make political gain from the DEM loss of Southern support, then why apologize? I don't know about anyone else, but I am not very likely to apologize for something I didn't do, particularly if I am being accused of a heinous action... GOP Apologizes for Southern Strategy -- http://inside.sfuhs.org/dept/history...hernstrat2.htm ...and there is from 2012 this regarding a 1981 interview given by Lee Atwater, GOP strategist and advisor to Reagan and GHW Bush (he was also Bush's 1988 Campaign Manager) and well-known 'hard ball' campaigner, in which he acknowledges the strategy of divisive racial politics as a means for the GOP to make gains... Exclusive: Lee Atwater’s Infamous 1981 Interview on the Southern Strategy -- https://www.thenation.com/article/ex...hern-strategy/ So, we have a GOP Party Chairman aplolgizing for, and a GOP White House Advisor and Presidential campaign manager discussing a strategy the Trump minions and the Far-Right GOP are trying to claim didn't exist... ...and there was Candace Owens who tried to deny the existence of a Southern Strategy by, effectively, lying to Congress during a hearing on hate crimes... Candace Owens' false statement that the Southern strategy is a myth -- https://www.politifact.com/punditfac...uthern-strate/ For something that didn't/doesn't exist, it sure has left a lot of 'fingerprints' at the scenes of its crimes... What quite obviously doesn't exist is the honesty, integrity, morality and intelligence of the deniers... ...but, then, I guess, when it looks like the SS Trumptanic is headed for that 2020 iceberg, taking the GOP down with it, desperation is bound to set in... <O>
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Gee, I don't know... I heard about someone who advocated inclusion, diversity, redistribution of wealth, tolerance, you know, all those socialist, liberal things; didn't go to well for him: they literally crucified him. But hey I hear his followers are 'honoring' his memory and his ethos by doing just the opposite...  <O>
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08-12-19, 07:10 PM
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I don't think "that" guy wanted people to become alcoholics or get cancer from cigarettes.  Walking around in sandals, I don't think "that" guy wanted the streets full of poo or rats either. His was a fish based diet also, very different from the Maduro diet.
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08-12-19, 07:26 PM
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Dems have been prognosticating Trumps demise for going on three years now. They ain't been right yet.
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Who could ever forget the polls indicating that Hillary was going to win or Senator Mitch Mcconel saying after the election "I didn't think Trump had a chance in hell of winning" 
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08-12-19, 08:05 PM
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Guilty as charged, all mine... <O>
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IIRC, he was persecuted by conservative religious fanatic fundamentalists, filled with their own hypocrisies, which he notably called out ("he without sin..."...) because he chose to associate, not with the wealthy, influential, political, but, rather, with those on the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder, those marginalized and despised by the "good" religious hypocrites; he lived the life of The Law fr more than those who espoused and claimed, falsely to be following the scriptures; he expressed ire and wrath notably against the money lenders in the temple; can you imagine the extent of that ire and wrath if he were to see the state of his "faithful" today? Who do you think would be highest on his list of cleansing? Would he see the false Pharisees in today's televangelists, see the moral hypocrites who believe they, alone, should dictate what is right and wrong (they'd throw stones if they could hire someone to do it for them...), see the sheer hatred which flies blatantly in the face of The Law?; would he see all that and more and what would he do to correct the failings?... Odd that you preferred to bring up alcoholism, cigarette addiction, "poo", and diets rather than actually address what was being presented. Deflect, deflect, deflect...  <O>
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That's because what's being presented is such B.S. Conservatives want to give people a sense of dignity and a job, liberal elitists want to give them free stuff paid for by taxpayers in exchange for votes.
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Ah this is your opinion. Here's another  https://www.joe.ie/uncategorized/rig...s-report-31975
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"Progressives are not stupid and evil. Conservatives are not racists and misogynists. Our fellow Americans who disagree with us are not our enemies. They are our fellow Americans who differ with us. And we should not put up with politicians, on the left or right, who can’t seem to understand this."
https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/o...206279209.html Unfortunately hate speech and words alone often lead to certain behaviour and action, and i indeed blame this on Trump.
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Hate speech and words have consequences.
https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news...019/index.html Certain behaviour also influences children https://www.sciencenews.org/article/...ealth-longterm Trump sure introduced a new low level of "communication" in his "speeches".
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