UK Politics Thread

[mapuc]

Regarding this recommendation for another extension

Catfish posted a very funny picture in our Funny picture thread.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Somebody in the UK should found a protest movement named Extension Rebellion and block the door to Westminster, not allowing them to move out until they are done.

Tusk recommends EU members to allow extension until end of January.

I think he did not mention a year, though. LOL

Boris can now demonstrate he has done everything within his power to achieve Brexit and both the SNP and Steptoes lot are on record as having said they will agree to a general election if and when a no deal has been achieved.

All the above boxes have been ticked so hopefully it is just a case of how quickly can an election happen?

Once an election is called, there has to be a gap of at least five weeks before polling day.

That's because the law requires Parliament to dissolve 25 working days before the election.

At this point, politicians stop being MPs and campaign for re-election, if they choose to stand again.

Traditionally, UK elections are held on a Thursday. So, if an election were triggered before Thursday 24 October, the earliest date the poll could take place is Thursday 28 November.

So now we must wait and see.

[Jimbuna]

Bernard Jenkin increases criticism of John Bercow amid Brexit uncertainty

Sir Bernard Jenkin has stepped up his criticism of John Bercow after the Brexit process appeared to stall on Tuesday and the Commons Speaker prepared to step down.

Mr Bercow on Monday rejected a Government bid to hold a meaningful vote on Boris Johnson’s Brexit deal on the basis it would be “repetitive and disorderly” to do so.

On Tuesday he said the European Union (Withdrawal Agreement Bill) was “in limbo”.

Mr Bercow had come under fire on Monday from Brexit-backing MPs, including the Conservatives’ Sir Bernard, who said it was “becoming remarkable” how often Mr Bercow pleases “one lot and not the other lot”.

The Harwich and North Essex MP, who is also the chairman of the Commons Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee, on Wednesday raised questions about Mr Bercow’s impartiality and the future of the Speaker’s role.

“I had plenty of frustrations with his predecessors, but, as colleagues will attest, it was not in my character to criticise a Speaker’s ruling, even in private, let alone on the floor of the House of Commons, before this week,” Sir Bernard wrote in The Daily Telegraph.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...id=mailsignout

There are a growing number of MPs feeling this way and I think his retirement date 31st October iirc can't come quick enough.

I doubt he will get the customary knighthood usually afforded to retired speakers either.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

All the above boxes have been ticked so hopefully it is just a case of how quickly can an election happen?

You can rule out this time of the year evenings getting darker and colder now and with Xmas on the horizon most people are not interested.

[Jimbuna]

[Skybird]

https://translate.google.de/translat...a-1292949.html

[Jimbuna]

The Shadow Home Secretary is acting herself again

[Catfish]

re Bercow and the comments here the tabloid papers have obviously had a field day.

As long as groups like Mogg's European research group ERG (lmao) loathe him he is doing something right.

[mapuc]

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

The last two days I have, in this thread seen picture or words indicating John Bercow wasn't neutral

This I don't understand, have several times been told a bill can't be raised two times in the Parliament, if there haven't been any changed to this bill or other things

Boris J. presented this bill for the Parliament on Saturday, where the Politicians decided to postpone it. Boris tried to present the same bill again Monday. This was denied by the speaker of the house

Then I understood it...

And it made me wonder

The Parliament didn't vote Saturday, so how can they deny Boris to present this bill a second time...

Markus

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

And it made me wonder

The Parliament didn't vote Saturday, so how can they deny Boris to present this bill a second time...

This is the question, the answer to which Bercow probably plans to take with him into his grave.


Truth is he already has annoucned his retirement for Octobre 31st, I think. So he must not fear for his career anymore. A german proverb: Ist der Ruf erst ruiniert, lebt sich's gänzlich ungeniert...

[Catfish]

Mapuc, the deal had already been voted for, and rejected by the majority. There is no point (even disallowed in english parliament) to vote again for the same question.
" … the same question cannot be put to MPs more than once within the same parliamentary session."

[Skybird]

The vote you talk about has NOT been carried out. It was withdrawn before the voting took place. Bercow incredibly stretched the limits to cover with his excuse a ground that cannot be covered by it. Thats why it is not convincing, and thats why it attracts quite some criticsm. And adds to the already existing bitterness.

[skidman]

On Tuesday he said the European Union (Withdrawal Agreement Bill) was “in limbo”.

And a few minutes later he delivered the technical explanation (The WA Bill can not be processed, because the second Bill that contains the recipe for the process was voted against, so the WA Bill is stationary).

The real embarrassing moment on Tuesday night was when Rees-Mogg tried to explain why the House was not allowed sufficient time to evaluate that proposed Bill. What a greasy slimeball!

Back to "limbo": It becomes more and more obvious, that a growing share of the MPs is facing "limbus infantium" while the remainder happily settles for purgatory.

[Jimbuna]

Downing Street has dismissed reports of disagreements within Boris Johnson's government over how to move forward with the Brexit process.

No 10 has indicated the PM will seek a snap poll if the EU proposes delaying the Brexit deadline until January.

And so the futility goes on and on and on and on....

[Mr Quatro]

And so the futility goes on and on and on and on....