UK Politics Thread - Page 748

Skybird · 10-04-19, 04:35 PM

^ Imagine

- Labour gets its will and no election before Oct. 31 or so, so that Johnson cannot avoid sending that letter;

- voters of the Tories being so pissed by Johnson that they give Johnson one in the eye and so

- Farrage's UKIP gains an absolute majority, and then completes no-deal-Brexit.

#

Corbyn pissed. Johnson pissed. Tories pissed. Labour pissed. Brussels and the EU pissed. And Farrage grinning his wide monkey grin.

And you now what? I think it is not even a completely unrealistic scenario. Not after the past three years.

STEED · 10-04-19, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Sounds to me like somebody is already living in an area of civil unrest

In the words of Kryten you bet your ass.

Upper middle class area you would not think that walking the streets on Friday night.

mapuc · 10-04-19, 05:14 PM

I have in this forum seen the word Civil unrest a few times.

Will this civil unrest happen whether UK leave EU or not or if it leaves with or without a deal ?
(can't get the sentence right)

Markus

JU_88 · 10-04-19, 05:26 PM

I hoping it wont. I'm suggesting its more likely if the courts interfere in a major way.
but if Brexit got flipped via a GE or a 2nd referendum, that might not be so bad

That said, I'm also betting if we do leave on the 31st, some Brexiteers will go out celebrating, and we will be hearing some horror stories the day after about the more unsavory ones.

STEED · 10-05-19, 03:33 AM

I have a great idea to solve the Brexit deadlock problem, Europe gets rid of the EU thus solving the Brexit problem.

JU_88 · 10-05-19, 03:57 AM

You might have to wait another decade or three before that happens.

STEED · 10-05-19, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JU_88

You might have to wait another decade or three before that happens.

Just slip Europe a fiver and they will be happy to scrap the EU.

Jimbuna · 10-05-19, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

^ Imagine

- Labour gets its will and no election before Oct. 31 or so, so that Johnson cannot avoid sending that letter;

- voters of the Tories being so pissed by Johnson that they give Johnson one in the eye and so

- Farrage's UKIP gains an absolute majority, and then completes no-deal-Brexit.

#

Corbyn pissed. Johnson pissed. Tories pissed. Labour pissed. Brussels and the EU pissed. And Farrage grinning his wide monkey grin.

And you now what? I think it is not even a completely unrealistic scenario. Not after the past three years.

Whilst I agree anything is possible in these uncertain times I don't think the scenario you describe is ever going to happen.

Oh and Farage is no longer the leader of UKIP, he is the leader of the Brexit Party

Jimbuna · 10-05-19, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

I have in this forum seen the word Civil unrest a few times.

Will this civil unrest happen whether UK leave EU or not or if it leaves with or without a deal ?
(can't get the sentence right)

Markus

Hard to say Markus but I sincerely hope not.

Jimbuna · 10-05-19, 06:25 AM

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Talks between the UK and European Union will not take place this weekend as anticipated after the European Commission said Boris Johnson's new Brexit proposals "do not provide a basis for concluding an agreement".
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexi...id=mailsignout

It is looking increasingly likely that it is going to be 'Do or die'

JU_88 · 10-05-19, 06:30 AM

I highly doubt anyone but the Tories are able to take a parliamentary majority at present. and even their chances on that are very slim - as they'll get wiped out in Scotland.
We'll probably need another coalition.

The most solid coalition would be SNP and Libdems probably, they are united on quite alot of issues, especially brexit. IMO they would probably need Labour as well to form a majority.
And Labour are in such a fractured mess I doubt any one would want to work with them at the moment.
Cons and Brexit party would be possible, but messy - they'd butt heads alot. Cons+BP would be the most likey winners at the moment IMO.

Jimbuna · 10-05-19, 06:40 AM

I'd certainly agree with you on points two and three but doubt the SNP and LibDems could muster sufficient numbers to form a government.

I'd personally go for a Tory Brexit coalition.

JU_88 · 10-05-19, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I'd certainly agree with you on points two and three but doubt the SNP and LibDems could muster sufficient numbers to form a government.

I'd personally go for a Tory Brexit coalition.

yeah i thought about it and edited, They'd need to unite all 3 major pro remainer parties probably.

Jimbuna · 10-05-19, 07:02 AM

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The government has confirmed it plans to prorogue Parliament next Tuesday and hold a Queen's Speech on 14 October.

Boris Johnson's last attempt to suspend Parliament in this way was ruled unlawful by the Supreme Court.

But the government needs to bring the current parliamentary session to an end, before it can hold a Queen's Speech setting out its agenda for the next session. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49913130

There certainly shouldn't be any drama this time round.

Skybird · 10-05-19, 08:23 AM

Klaus Stuttman, for: Der Tagesspiegel

10-04-19, 04:35 PM	#11206
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,517 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	^ Imagine - Labour gets its will and no election before Oct. 31 or so, so that Johnson cannot avoid sending that letter; - voters of the Tories being so pissed by Johnson that they give Johnson one in the eye and so - Farrage's UKIP gains an absolute majority, and then completes no-deal-Brexit. # Corbyn pissed. Johnson pissed. Tories pissed. Labour pissed. Brussels and the EU pissed. And Farrage grinning his wide monkey grin. And you now what? I think it is not even a completely unrealistic scenario. Not after the past three years. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-05-19, 03:33 AM	#11210
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	I have a great idea to solve the Brexit deadlock problem, Europe gets rid of the EU thus solving the Brexit problem. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

10-05-19, 06:30 AM	#11216
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,727 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I highly doubt anyone but the Tories are able to take a parliamentary majority at present. and even their chances on that are very slim - as they'll get wiped out in Scotland. We'll probably need another coalition. The most solid coalition would be SNP and Libdems probably, they are united on quite alot of issues, especially brexit. IMO they would probably need Labour as well to form a majority. And Labour are in such a fractured mess I doubt any one would want to work with them at the moment. Cons and Brexit party would be possible, but messy - they'd butt heads alot. Cons+BP would be the most likey winners at the moment IMO. Last edited by JU_88; 10-05-19 at 06:42 AM.

10-05-19, 06:40 AM	#11217
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,305 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I'd certainly agree with you on points two and three but doubt the SNP and LibDems could muster sufficient numbers to form a government. I'd personally go for a Tory Brexit coalition. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

10-05-19, 08:23 AM	#11220
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,517 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Klaus Stuttman, for: Der Tagesspiegel __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-04-19, 05:14 PM	#11208
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,911 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I have in this forum seen the word Civil unrest a few times. Will this civil unrest happen whether UK leave EU or not or if it leaves with or without a deal ? (can't get the sentence right) Markus

10-04-19, 05:26 PM	#11209
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,727 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I hoping it wont. I'm suggesting its more likely if the courts interfere in a major way. but if Brexit got flipped via a GE or a 2nd referendum, that might not be so bad That said, I'm also betting if we do leave on the 31st, some Brexiteers will go out celebrating, and we will be hearing some horror stories the day after about the more unsavory ones.

10-05-19, 03:57 AM	#11211
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,727 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	You might have to wait another decade or three before that happens.