Who / What / Where Game - Page 929

Catfish · 12-05-20, 02:28 PM

^

Not the Holy Grail, maybe for some archeologists but i guess not even that.
Made of bronze alright.

skidman · 12-05-20, 03:07 PM

A scratch pan used for salt production found in the wadden sea near the former settlement Rungholt?

Catfish · 12-05-20, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidman

A scratch pan used for salt production found in the wadden sea near the former settlement Rungholt?

Not a scratch pan. They call it a handle cup.
Not found near Rungholt, though i guess I know what you are up to.
It may be connected to this though, the Rungholt story is more recent.
Hint: Yes, found in Germany.

I can tell you i was dumbfounded when i saw this, at a museum's exhibition.

Buddahaid · 12-05-20, 03:29 PM

Can't be bell beaker people.

Catfish · 12-05-20, 03:30 PM

No, a bit later - bronze age.

edit OT here, bell beaker people have nothing to do with this, but just found this:
"Ancient DNA shows that the culture that brought Bronze Age technology to Britain was connected to a migration that almost completely replaced the island's earlier inhabitants."
Poor Britain, no wonder they dislike immigration so much.

Aktungbby · 12-05-20, 04:42 PM

found at Tollense battle dig?

Catfish · 12-05-20, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby

found at Tollense battle dig?

No.

edit: i think i made a mistake, i cannot find anything about this on the web (or at least not in english), so how should you

Ok so i will make it easier, where does this cup come from/where was it made. Greater area will do.
If you find out where it was found it is certainly also ok.

Buddahaid · 12-05-20, 04:58 PM

Ikea?

Catfish · 12-05-20, 05:02 PM

No, not in Sweden

skidman · 12-05-20, 05:05 PM

So it was made outside of Germany but found at a archeological site in Germany?

Catfish · 12-05-20, 05:07 PM

^ That. "made outside of Germany but found at a archeological site in German"

and re Buddahaid, it is indirectly connected to the bell beaker people as i just found out

This is because the "bronze age" does not begin or happen at the same time all over the ancient world.
What can be said for sure is that this cup was not made by the bell beaker people.
There even seems to be a difference between the Trichterbecher and the Glockenbecher people/culture, but both are called bellbeaker in english literature

As usual things are more complicated than i thought.

Aktungbby · 12-05-20, 05:28 PM

was it found in a peaceful settlement dig?

Catfish · 12-05-20, 05:30 PM

It was found in a "bell beaker" burial site. "Bell beaker" being a late stone age description here, better "Glockenbecher" indicating the late stone age.
The people were buried peacefully, but they had been killed quite brutally.

Aktungbby · 12-05-20, 05:32 PM

single. Grave burial or mass burial?

Catfish · 12-05-20, 05:37 PM

Neither, just a "normal" bigger burial site.
It seems there were ony a few people in the settlement (no village to be called this at the time) when enemies killed them, the others buried them when they returned. This is all highly speculative though.

It all took place around 1800-1600 before Christ. The cup is a bit (~200 years) older.

12-05-20, 02:28 PM	#13921
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ Not the Holy Grail, maybe for some archeologists but i guess not even that. Made of bronze alright. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

12-05-20, 03:07 PM	#13922
skidman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Near the Dutch mountains Posts: 1,147 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	A scratch pan used for salt production found in the wadden sea near the former settlement Rungholt? __________________ "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.” (Douglas Adams)

12-05-20, 03:29 PM	#13924
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,561 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	Can't be bell beaker people. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

12-05-20, 03:30 PM	#13925
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	No, a bit later - bronze age. edit OT here, bell beaker people have nothing to do with this, but just found this: "Ancient DNA shows that the culture that brought Bronze Age technology to Britain was connected to a migration that almost completely replaced the island's earlier inhabitants." Poor Britain, no wonder they dislike immigration so much. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

12-05-20, 04:42 PM	#13926
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,869 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	found at Tollense battle dig? __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

12-05-20, 04:58 PM	#13928
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,561 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	Ikea? __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

12-05-20, 05:02 PM	#13929
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	No, not in Sweden __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

12-05-20, 05:05 PM	#13930
skidman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Near the Dutch mountains Posts: 1,147 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	So it was made outside of Germany but found at a archeological site in Germany? __________________ "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.” (Douglas Adams)

12-05-20, 05:07 PM	#13931
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ That. "made outside of Germany but found at a archeological site in German" and re Buddahaid, it is indirectly connected to the bell beaker people as i just found out This is because the "bronze age" does not begin or happen at the same time all over the ancient world. What can be said for sure is that this cup was not made by the bell beaker people. There even seems to be a difference between the Trichterbecher and the Glockenbecher people/culture, but both are called bellbeaker in english literature As usual things are more complicated than i thought. __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 12-05-20 at 05:15 PM.*

12-05-20, 05:28 PM	#13932
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,869 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	was it found in a peaceful settlement dig? __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

12-05-20, 05:30 PM	#13933
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	It was found in a "bell beaker" burial site. "Bell beaker" being a late stone age description here, better "Glockenbecher" indicating the late stone age. The people were buried peacefully, but they had been killed quite brutally. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

12-05-20, 05:32 PM	#13934
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,869 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	single. Grave burial or mass burial? __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

12-05-20, 05:37 PM	#13935
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Neither, just a "normal" bigger burial site. It seems there were ony a few people in the settlement (no village to be called this at the time) when enemies killed them, the others buried them when they returned. This is all highly speculative though. It all took place around 1800-1600 before Christ. The cup is a bit (~200 years) older. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.