Request for clarity re GWX4 thread

10-02-08, 08:39 AM

Could I ask the moderators why the GWX4 thread (linked below) was locked following Privteer's post please ? I can not for the life of me see what is inflamatory about it.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=141942

Thanks in advance...

Mikhayl · 10-02-08, 09:15 AM

It's funny how threads get locked faster in the SH4 section than in General Topics

Sailor Steve · 10-02-08, 10:04 AM

Not really funny, or odd (which is the type of 'funny' I assume you meant). Neal said when he created that thread that there would be a zero-tolerance policy for any hostility, and for better or worse Privateer's last comments were a little defensive at best.

I'm not saying I agree or disagree with him, and in fact it could have been locked for an entirely different reason, in which case I'm talking through my hat again. I'm just sayin', that's all.

10-02-08, 06:57 PM

With no explanation why it was locked?
How are we to correct things?
:hmm:

Onkel Neal · 10-02-08, 09:40 PM

I locked it. I had gotten a Bad Post report and after reviewing the contents of the last few posts, decided to lock it before the participants got themselves in hot water (no, not Privateer, he just happened to be the last person to post).

I've been asked to notify the moderators before locking threads in this forum; I will abide by that request. However, as I said when opening this forum a few months ago, if things get out of hand, people will get brigged, and I am not going to listen to appeals or suffer disagreements on who is right and wrong. Everyone thinks they are "right". Yet, all these "right" people manage to break down and disrupt the forums.

Neal

Sailor Steve · 10-02-08, 11:49 PM

See, I was talking through my hat again. Gotta get a new hat.

Apologies.

Rockin Robbins · 10-17-08, 01:22 PM

Yeah, I had made a comment that the GW wouldn't settle for just porting SH3 GWX components to SH4 and that they would want a truly SH4 mod using new capabilities. One of the GW got his anatomy in a wringer that I would dare to read their posts and talk to their leader and pretend to speak for them. I replied that I was only repeating common knowledge and was confident that I had got it right. If I were wrong, privateer would jump in to tell me I was wrong and I'd apologize for getting it wrong. Privateer and I exchanged PMs after that and he agreed with me. I didn't complain about his over-enthusiastic member. When I returned to the thread later I found it locked.

I didn't think it warranted freezing the thread. But that's Neal's decision and things have been going rather well. No sense taking a chance, I suppose. No harm was done by the lock in any case.

Onkel Neal · 10-17-08, 02:08 PM

We tried to take the approach that people could work these things out without a lot of intervention. That obviously did not work. People got their "anatomy in a wringer" because other people could not resist instigating and picking. I really don't understand the psychology behind this when you do it, or when people overreact, but yes, better safe than sorry so locking threads is a technique we use to keep things under control.

Since the post before yours was made fully two weeks ago, locking now. I will notify the moderator.

Neal

10-02-08, 08:39 AM	#1
Uber Gruber Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Request for clarity re GWX4 thread Could I ask the moderators why the GWX4 thread (linked below) was locked following Privteer's post please ? I can not for the life of me see what is inflamatory about it. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=141942 Thanks in advance...

10-02-08, 10:04 AM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Not really funny, or odd (which is the type of 'funny' I assume you meant). Neal said when he created that thread that there would be a zero-tolerance policy for any hostility, and for better or worse Privateer's last comments were a little defensive at best. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with him, and in fact it could have been locked for an entirely different reason, in which case I'm talking through my hat again. I'm just sayin', that's all. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

10-02-08, 09:40 PM	#5
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,289 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	I locked it. I had gotten a Bad Post report and after reviewing the contents of the last few posts, decided to lock it before the participants got themselves in hot water (no, not Privateer, he just happened to be the last person to post). I've been asked to notify the moderators before locking threads in this forum; I will abide by that request. However, as I said when opening this forum a few months ago, if things get out of hand, people will get brigged, and I am not going to listen to appeals or suffer disagreements on who is right and wrong. Everyone thinks they are "right". Yet, all these "right" people manage to break down and disrupt the forums. Neal __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

10-02-08, 11:49 PM	#6
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	See, I was talking through my hat again. Gotta get a new hat. Apologies. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

10-17-08, 01:22 PM	#7
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,899 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Yeah, I had made a comment that the GW wouldn't settle for just porting SH3 GWX components to SH4 and that they would want a truly SH4 mod using new capabilities. One of the GW got his anatomy in a wringer that I would dare to read their posts and talk to their leader and pretend to speak for them. I replied that I was only repeating common knowledge and was confident that I had got it right. If I were wrong, privateer would jump in to tell me I was wrong and I'd apologize for getting it wrong. Privateer and I exchanged PMs after that and he agreed with me. I didn't complain about his over-enthusiastic member. When I returned to the thread later I found it locked. I didn't think it warranted freezing the thread. But that's Neal's decision and things have been going rather well. No sense taking a chance, I suppose. No harm was done by the lock in any case. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

10-02-08, 09:15 AM	#2
Mikhayl Captain Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 485 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	It's funny how threads get locked faster in the SH4 section than in General Topics

10-02-08, 06:57 PM	#4
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	With no explanation why it was locked? How are we to correct things? :hmm:

10-17-08, 02:08 PM	#8
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,289 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	We tried to take the approach that people could work these things out without a lot of intervention. That obviously did not work. People got their "anatomy in a wringer" because other people could not resist instigating and picking. I really don't understand the psychology behind this when you do it, or when people overreact, but yes, better safe than sorry so locking threads is a technique we use to keep things under control. Since the post before yours was made fully two weeks ago, locking now. I will notify the moderator. Neal