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Aktungbby · 03-10-23, 11:23 AM

In today newspaper: "Gun store tracking put on hold" Visa and Mastercard have paused their decision to start categorizing purchases at gunshops; a significant win for conservative groups Second Amendment advocates who felt tracking gunship purchases would inadertantly discriminate against legal firearms purchases. The decision is a defeat for gun control groups that hoped categorization of credit/debit card purchases would allow authorities to see 'red flags' incl. mass ammo purchases before a mass shooting etc. Several gun lobby pushback and conservative politicians, incl. GOP state attorneys threatening legal action caused the pause. Visa indicated legal pushback was partially the reason for the pause. The issue is 'up in the air' at the moment inho; gun control fanatics will undoubtedly try again...

August · 03-10-23, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by les green01

defense shooting is max 10 feet the gunfight at the ok corral farest was 15 feet closet was 5 feet so we are not talking Hickok vs Tutt in springfield mo range at 75 yards i pack anything from a 22,380 to 45,500 mag now the 4 inch 500 s&w mag might be a little too much but you never know they might bring a grizz to the fight,main thing is to know the weapon and how it handles and practice every chance you get

My old Army Team Sergeant used to say that pistols are only as accurate as a thrown baseball and have about the same effective range. At 15 feet most people would miss a target with a baseball, especially in a tense situation.

les green01 · 03-10-23, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by August

My old Army Team Sergeant used to say that pistols are only as accurate as a thrown baseball and have about the same effective range. At 15 feet most people would miss a target with a baseball, especially in a tense situation.

he had that right most people if they never been in a firefight going piss all over themselves and cant really describe the blood rush for home defense i rather use my old 870 cant miss with that

MaDef · 03-10-23, 07:43 PM

That is why you practice, practice, and then practice some more. Anything past 15 yards and I'll use a shotgun/rifle if given a choice.

Sean C · 03-11-23, 12:24 AM

Many people overestimate the spread of shotgun shot - especially if they're unfamiliar with the type of choke their shotgun may be fitted with. Just sayin'.

MaDef · 03-11-23, 01:05 AM

No worries, deer slugs don't have a "spread".

Rockstar · 03-11-23, 08:17 AM

Did you get your .22 yet?

MaDef · 03-11-23, 10:00 AM

No, but I do have my eyes open in case I trip over a .22 Henry lever action.

Rockstar · 03-11-23, 10:13 AM

More on the myth of stopping power. @1:05 thru 2:47

Otto Harkaman · 03-11-23, 10:04 PM

Fun having Bud's Gun Range nearby, stopped in for a half hour to shoot this G19 I bought last October but hadn't shot. Great gun, knew from the beginning wouldn't have any problems.

I sold that G26 I had, strange gun. Made in USA Georgia, Smyrna rather than Austria. Slide was very heavy, gun seemed most manageable with an extend magazine. I kept thinking of it as a semi-fire Ingram, too heavy for conceal carry.

Well I don't know about the Keltec but I am so glad I purchased this G44. Look forward to getting to the range soon after shooting the G19.

les green01 · 03-11-23, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean C

Many people overestimate the spread of shotgun shot - especially if they're unfamiliar with the type of choke their shotgun may be fitted with. Just sayin'.

having hunted with that old 870 for 40 years im aware of the spread of it also seen my dad get pepper at 20 yrds with a 12 gauge at 7 years old course it was bird shot pepper his back and neck good probbly would been worse if it wasnt for the hunting jacket

Torvald Von Mansee · 04-02-23, 09:11 AM

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Catfish · 12-04-23, 12:27 PM

Exocet25fr · 12-05-23, 12:04 PM

em2nought · 04-08-24, 05:39 PM

I might be doing some wild boar hunting in Texas in the future. Anybody have a recommendation for an under $800 rifle in caliber 450 bushmaster? I'm open to single shots or bolt actions. I've watched some videos and almost every bolt action seems to have some sort of Achilles heel. The Savage scout for instance seems to have feeding issues. When I watched a video the guys all seemed to really fumble with the action as they operated the bolt to load the round. So funny that those guys made no mention of it.

I'm leaning toward the Gen I Ruger American, but I've seen some accuracy concerns.

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Otto Harkaman Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Posts: 914 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Fun having Bud's Gun Range nearby, stopped in for a half hour to shoot this G19 I bought last October but hadn't shot. Great gun, knew from the beginning wouldn't have any problems. I sold that G26 I had, strange gun. Made in USA Georgia, Smyrna rather than Austria. Slide was very heavy, gun seemed most manageable with an extend magazine. I kept thinking of it as a semi-fire Ingram, too heavy for conceal carry. Well I don't know about the Keltec but I am so glad I purchased this G44. Look forward to getting to the range soon after shooting the G19. __________________ "If you want to know the age of the Earth, look upon the sea in a storm." -Joseph Conrad USS Pompano (SS-181) https://www.oneternalpatrol.com/uss-pompano-181.htm

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MaDef Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,046 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	That is why you practice, practice, and then practice some more. Anything past 15 yards and I'll use a shotgun/rifle if given a choice.

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MaDef Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,046 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	No worries, deer slugs don't have a "spread".

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MaDef Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,046 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	No, but I do have my eyes open in case I trip over a .22 Henry lever action.

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em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,275 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	recommend me a 450 bushmaster rifle I might be doing some wild boar hunting in Texas in the future. Anybody have a recommendation for an under $800 rifle in caliber 450 bushmaster? I'm open to single shots or bolt actions. I've watched some videos and almost every bolt action seems to have some sort of Achilles heel. The Savage scout for instance seems to have feeding issues. When I watched a video the guys all seemed to really fumble with the action as they operated the bolt to load the round. So funny that those guys made no mention of it. I'm leaning toward the Gen I Ruger American, but I've seen some accuracy concerns. __________________ Looks like we need a Lemon Law for Presidents now! DNC sold us a dud, and they knew it.