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August · 01-03-23, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Keeps getting worse though.

Yeah one vote changed to Jordan giving him 20 vs 200 for McCarthy.

mapuc · 01-03-23, 05:25 PM

Taking a little detour from your interesting discussion and ask

The final report on the 6th of Jan. which one of you are going to read the entire report(845 pages) ?

I'm not gonna read a single word-It's an American/Domestic problem.

When you have answered my question you may return to your discussion

Markus

Skybird · 01-03-23, 05:27 PM

A disgrace at least like it has not been seen for 100 years. All because of the orange dude and the genie he let out of the bottle. At least we get properly entertained. And the reputation of Republicans further damaged.

Ostfriese · 01-03-23, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

A disgrace at least like it has not been seen for 100 years. All because of the orange dude and the genie he let out of the bottle. At least we get properly entertained. And the reputation of Republicans further damaged.

Do you think McCarthy will pull a "Heide Simonis" at some point?

Skybird · 01-03-23, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ostfriese

Do you think McCarthy will pull a "Heide Simonis" at some point?

He could even surpass it many times over!

Serious, he already is damaged anyway. So is the party. Not that there is much left that could still be damaged.

MaDef · 01-03-23, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Taking a little detour from your interesting discussion and ask

The final report on the 6th of Jan. which one of you are going to read the entire report(845 pages) ?

I'm not gonna read a single word-It's an American/Domestic problem.

When you have answered my question you may return to your discussion

Markus

only in certain circles, most of us in flyover country belief Jan 6th was a one-off (a protest that got out of hand and turned into a small riot), not an insurrection as some proclaim to believe.

Texas Red · 01-03-23, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDef

only in certain circles, most of us in flyover country belief Jan 6th was a one-off (a protest that got out of hand and turned into a small riot), not an insurrection as some proclaim to believe.

Okay then.

Jan. 6 was a riot instigated by Trump for the sole purpose of blocking the certification of the votes. He clearly wished to be back in power, and his supporters wished to reinstate him as well. Therefore, it is not much of a stretch to say that the riot was intended as an insurrection.

IIRC, Trump and his legal team had also worked on intimidating election officials into giving him the votes/points he needed (I believe this was established in the hearings over the summer).

Rockstar · 01-03-23, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Taking a little detour from your interesting discussion and ask

The final report on the 6th of Jan. which one of you are going to read the entire report(845 pages) ?

I'm not gonna read a single word-It's an American/Domestic problem.

When you have answered my question you may return to your discussion

Markus

It doesn’t matter if anyone reads it. The lines have been drawn, minds are already made up. Two people could read the same document and end up with three different opinions.

Buddahaid · 01-03-23, 10:00 PM

Well who would have thought. Santos is wanted in Brazil for identity theft and fraud.

Rockstar · 01-03-23, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Well who would have thought. Santos is wanted in Brazil for identity theft and fraud.

I do believe we have an extradition agreement with Brasilia. We could ship him out if they press charges.

Not sure if it’s up to date

https://internationalextraditionblog...03/brazil1.pdf

Buddahaid · 01-03-23, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

I do believe we have an extradition agreement with Brasilia. We could ship him out if they press charges.

Not sure if it’s up to date

https://internationalextraditionblog...03/brazil1.pdf

I believe Brazil has reopened the case, anyway, nothing will happen while he sits in Congress even if he's convicted.

mapuc · 01-04-23, 08:37 AM

Following is copied and translated from a Danish newspaper

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Tuesday's events in the House of Representatives were worthy a Hollywood movie.

Kevin McCarthy was hoping to rally Republicans and get enough votes to become speaker, now that the party has a majority. But it ended in farce.

In the first round McCarthy managed to get 203 votes, but needed 218. So for the first time in 100 years we had to go to a second round and finally a third round. But here again we failed, and the humiliation was total.

And it was the same 20 Republican politicians who stood in the way of Kevin McCarthy's dream. And that has created further internal division in the party.

In the wake of the failure, the Nebraska politician has said that the 20 Republican kamikaze pilots have been nicknamed the 'Taliban 20' because, according to him, they operate as terrorists within the party.

And that has prompted Matt Gaetz to react. He's one of those who couldn't bring himself to point to Kevin McCarthy.

The lack of a majority has left Kevin McCarthy with a big job, while the House of Representatives is de facto in hibernation without a speaker in charge of gathering majorities to pass federal legislation.

And that creates problems for both him and the legislature.

Getting tough
Former US Congressman Charlie Dent already said after the first vote that it will be hard for Kevin McCarthy to stand up.

- They can keep doing votes, but once they've been voted on this way, it's really hard to change the votes. So I don't see how he gets it changed," Dent told CNN.

Congress convened Tuesday for the first time since the midterm elections.

One of the first items on the agenda is to find a Speaker of the House. Only once that's done can the rest of the formal procedures move forward, CNN writes.

It has not happened since 1923 that a chairman candidate was not elected in the first round. Back then, nine votes were needed.

The House of Representatives convenes Wednesday to try again to elect a chairman.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Markus

Rockstar · 01-04-23, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Keeps getting worse though.

Ya, I heard if McCarthy can’t find the votes he might yield the position to the My Pillow Guy for speaker of the house.

Buddahaid · 01-04-23, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

Ya, I heard if McCarthy can’t find the votes he might yield the position to the My Pillow Guy for speaker of the house.

I’d pay to watch that.

Subnuts · 01-04-23, 04:54 PM

For someone who claims to hate socialism, Kevin McCarthy really seems to enjoy being publicly owned.

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