Climate Change

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I'm pro-nuclear power. ´cause I understand there will be huge lack of electricity if we went 100 % CO2 neutral.
And yes your right on spot-We are too many on this planet
Markus

This is why i am as pro-nuclear as pro covid-19.
Less of those two-legged bugs will improve the overall situation.

[Skybird]

We could enrich the already flourinated and chlorinated and brominated tap water a bit further with lead, and then use them as reactor shield material. Kills two birds with one stone. And combats halogene pollution.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Catfish

This is why i am as pro-nuclear as pro covid-19.
Less of those two-legged bugs will improve the overall situation.

If there was an alternative to nuclear power I would prefer that instead.

There's this new thing Thorium.

Markus

[Catfish]

@Mapuc: they build smaller reactors now alright, but the Thorium-Salt idea is 40 years old and would be more secure, but then it never worked. I doubt it does now.

[Jimbuna]

I've not much use for the latest agreement being all that successful for numerous reasons, one alone being the fact India have successfully watered down the coal resolution (probably aided by China) in the final hours over the wording of an intention to abandon coal, which was watered down from a “phase-out” to a “phase-down”. Yet it marked the first time that such a resolution had been made under the UN climate process.

I used to fear for my childrens futures but it will probably be harder hitting on their childrens futures.

[Jimbuna]

UN climate chief Patricia Espinosa says a deal reached at the COP26 summit is a huge step forward.

The inclusion of a coal pledge - albeit watered down - is unprecedented, she says.

India and China asked for a crucial last minute-change to the agreement, calling for the "phase down" not the "phase out" of coal power.

COP26 president Alok Sharma denies that the change of language represents a failure.

The deal is receiving a mixed reaction - Greenpeace says it keeps the 1.5C goal "only just alive"

The summit's overall goal was to chart a path to keep warming limited to 1.5C and avoid the worst impacts of climate change.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Catfish

. I doubt it does now.

Found on the fly:

https://www.stern.de/digital/technik...-30632008.html

https://www.spektrum.de/news/energie...rs-vor/1922764

Its reality by now. In China. In a city named Wuwei.



Wu Wei. Action by non-action. Taoism. Or Germany.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I used to fear for my childrens futures but it will probably be harder hitting on their childrens futures.

The apocalypse does take place not in reality, but in the media, and activists last but not least yell and shout less for the climate and more against the risk of loosing influence and publicity again, since in principle they have nothing to offer for anyone, and only raise claims on others that lack any economical sustainability.

The world will become warmer, but the 1.5° goal is completely artifical and arbitrary and is a thumbs screw to force a monetarian transfer from the have-mores to the have-less'. We will not prevent it, and if we could, we could financially and economically not sustain it. We will and most likely do learn to adapt to this new warmer world. The positive meanings of conferences like Glasgow in all this imho is hopelessly overestimated. But they cause a lot of damage: big financial waste.

You must not fear for your childrens' childrens' future due to climate issues, Jim. You would be more realistic and probably marking the right target if worrying for them due to financial and economical collapse and a general delcine of civil liberties.

I do not deny climate changes, nor do I play them down. I just see them differently both in quality and quantity, and conclude on different consequences necessary. I do not subscribe to symbolic actions, nor to simple redistributions schemes. And I see that the climate movement is fundamentally driven and infiltrated by left-wing ideology and wet dreams of Marxist redistribution schemes. Where Fridays for Future yells and climate activists march, left-wing political groups and left-leaning party youth organisations also march as if it were the most natural alliance imaginable. It isn't. Eastern Europe still shows the traces and consequences of several decades of socialist-communist economic acting and planned economy. The environmental damages were devastating, outclassing what was to be seen in Westernr European countries.


The warning of George Orwell, this is what should worry you for your children - not global warming.

[Jimbuna]

Well, reading the above is certainly a perspective I have not yet considered

[mapuc]

Rain a scarce commodity

Lack of rain in India and in some states in USA well even here in Denmark we got less water from above than we should have got

I guess there's other countries where the rain is a less than usual

Has it to do with Climate Change as a majority says or has it to do with Earth normal cycle ?

(I was thinking on starting a thread about rain a scarce commodity-Then I remembered we had a thread about Climate and climate change)

Markus

[Skybird]

Way too much rain in germany since years. Only very few other places in the world loose their sweet water reserves as fast as is the cas ein Germany. I recall years when they said Germany were a sweetwater surplus country. No more, groundwater levels are dropping, and fast, and forests die, farmland gets lost, eroded humus layer/arable soil forever lost. We have first communities where sweet water is rationized. Not many yet, but it become more.

It has turned from "paradise" to "critical" within just a few years, a decade or one and a half.

"Do not mistake weather for climate".

[mapuc]

Skybird wrote

"Do not mistake weather for climate".

Nevertheless there are those here in Denmark who says it has to do with Climate change

That's why I asked is it climate or is it Earth normal cycle

Markus

[Skybird]

Yes, but some clever people think they must deny climate changes by refering to the daily weather. Weather bases on climate, of course, but the climate commands a long perspective trend or status, whereas weather fluctuates wildly from day to day - but does not allow conclusions on the general climate. I enjoiyed last yeras summer tremendously, for exmaple for it was cooler and wetter and muzch mor elike I remember summer to be from my childhood. The bushes and trees stayed green a bit longer in azutumn. And that came after three years of extraordinary droughts (for German conditions). The foirests do very bad, many trees must be cut, there are places in the Teutoburger forest that I do not recognise anymore, that plane and bare they are now. Water levels still are way too low, and the reserves lost in the years before have not even nearly been replenished. There you have it: weather versus climate. The weather was different last year's summer than in the three summers before. General climate trend was not any different at all.

[mapuc]

Thank you Skybird for your comment

I decided to make a search and found this page

Climate change increases the odds of worsening drought in many parts of the United States and the world. Regions such as the U.S. Southwest, where droughts are expected to get more frequent, intense, and longer lasting, are at particular risk.

https://www.c2es.org/content/drought...limate-change/

I'm not climatologist so I can't say what is what.

Markus

[Rockstar]

According to NASA and NOAA ‘climate change’ does not cause drought in the Untied States. The Pacific Decadel Oscillation (PDO) does and though the current drought in western U.S is bad it’s not the worst that’s ever happened. Yet,

These days what makes it bad is the 39 million idiots living in California using over 332 billion gallons of water every day to keep their lawns green. I say we mandate birth control in California so they stop wasting water.