Climate Change

Spoon 11th · 02-14-10, 07:56 AM

Climategate U-turn as scientist at centre of row admits: There has been no global warming since 1995

Professor Jones also conceded the possibility that the world was warmer in medieval times than now – suggesting global warming may not be a man-made phenomenon.

And he said that for the past 15 years there has been no ‘statistically significant’ warming.

The admissions will be seized on by sceptics as fresh evidence that there are serious flaws at the heart of the science of climate change and the orthodoxy that recent rises in temperature are largely man-made.

Professor Jones has been in the spotlight since he stepped down as director of the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit after the leaking of emails that sceptics claim show scientists were manipulating data.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti....html?ITO=1490

AVGWarhawk · 02-14-10, 08:00 AM

Watch this spot for a Skybird 6 page dissertation as to why this article is all bunk!

J/K Skybird. Have fun!

antikristuseke · 02-14-10, 08:06 AM

I'm going to take the lazy mans route.

The daily fail rocks!

Schroeder · 02-14-10, 09:49 AM

@Antikristuseke

Thanks for that video. I'm still totally amazed how people can still think "It's cold outside my house, therefore there can't be global warming...".

CaptainHaplo · 02-14-10, 10:28 AM

I haven't said there can't be global warming - but what I, and many skeptics have said - is that there is no irrefutable proof of global warming. What there is - is manipulated data, lies and hyperbole about what amounts to a weather forecast for the next 50-100 years, and beyond.

They can't tell me for sure if its going to rain next week or not - but because it is a method to manipulate society, they want to claim they KNOW beyond a doubt what is going to happen to the weather in 100 years or more.

Sorry - not buying that.

Follow the money - and you will see how Global Warming is a political agenda, and little else.

Stealth Hunter · 02-14-10, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

I'm still totally amazed how people can still think "It's cold outside my house, therefore there can't be global warming...".

The simple answer: they're dumbasses.

Skybird · 02-14-10, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Watch this spot for a Skybird 6 page dissertation as to why this article is all bunk!

J/K Skybird. Have fun!

I have, first: it's my birthday today and thus I am in a generous mood, second: I have pointed at the >undisputed< temperature data for the past decade and the difference between "weather" and "climate" repeatedly and thus feel free to skip this round. As long as you cannot prove that all out weather satellites in at least said decade have been malfunctioning, this story now is not really anything that costs me any sleep.

CaptainHaplo · 02-14-10, 01:54 PM

Well in that case - happy bday skybird

krashkart · 02-14-10, 01:57 PM

Hrm, you know I never did see a hole in the sky some years ago.... did I need to be living in Antarctica at the time, or could only science people see it? I jest.

And with that, I'll just wait until there is irrefutable evidence one way or another before I panic. Will say though that the wind farms here were spectacular at first sight... at least global warming has helped bring us some eye candy.

Oh, and Happy Birthday there, Skybird.

Skybird · 02-14-10, 02:11 PM

Thanks. I had a good day. Parents, a very close friend and her husband came for lunch - which was a Raclette. Great invention, this Raclette.

Schroeder · 02-14-10, 03:28 PM

Especially when you have to clean the pans of the dried cheese afterwards.

Happy Birthday btw.

Fish · 02-15-10, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

It's my birthday today

Congratulations Skybird!

Gerald · 07-26-10, 07:08 PM

By,PAUL KRUGMAN

Why didn’t climate-change legislation get through the Senate? The triumph of greed and cowardice.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/26/op...ml?ref=opinion

Lord_magerius · 07-26-10, 07:09 PM

My bad...

*Turns oven down*

ETR3(SS) · 07-26-10, 07:20 PM

Nice article. I liked the part where they singled out a republican and implied that it was his fault that climate legislation didn't pass. Never mind the fact that Congress is (last I heard) under the democrats rule. Oh don't forget about the fact that both parties do this sort of thing.

Bottom line, when both parties decide to quit playing point the finger I might start listening to what spews from their mouths.

02-14-10, 07:56 AM	#1
Spoon 11th Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 689 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	"There has been no global warming since 1995" Climategate U-turn as scientist at centre of row admits: There has been no global warming since 1995 Professor Jones also conceded the possibility that the world was warmer in medieval times than now – suggesting global warming may not be a man-made phenomenon. And he said that for the past 15 years there has been no ‘statistically significant’ warming. The admissions will be seized on by sceptics as fresh evidence that there are serious flaws at the heart of the science of climate change and the orthodoxy that recent rises in temperature are largely man-made. Professor Jones has been in the spotlight since he stepped down as director of the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit after the leaking of emails that sceptics claim show scientists were manipulating data. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti....html?ITO=1490

02-14-10, 08:00 AM	#2
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Watch this spot for a Skybird 6 page dissertation as to why this article is all bunk! J/K Skybird. Have fun! __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

02-14-10, 09:49 AM	#4
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	@Antikristuseke Thanks for that video. I'm still totally amazed how people can still think "It's cold outside my house, therefore there can't be global warming...". __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

02-14-10, 10:28 AM	#5
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	I haven't said there can't be global warming - but what I, and many skeptics have said - is that there is no irrefutable proof of global warming. What there is - is manipulated data, lies and hyperbole about what amounts to a weather forecast for the next 50-100 years, and beyond. They can't tell me for sure if its going to rain next week or not - but because it is a method to manipulate society, they want to claim they KNOW beyond a doubt what is going to happen to the weather in 100 years or more. Sorry - not buying that. Follow the money - and you will see how Global Warming is a political agenda, and little else. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

02-14-10, 01:54 PM	#8
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Well in that case - happy bday skybird __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

02-14-10, 08:06 AM	#3
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I'm going to take the lazy mans route. The daily fail rocks!

02-14-10, 01:57 PM	#9
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	Hrm, you know I never did see a hole in the sky some years ago.... did I need to be living in Antarctica at the time, or could only science people see it? I jest. And with that, I'll just wait until there is irrefutable evidence one way or another before I panic. Will say though that the wind farms here were spectacular at first sight... at least global warming has helped bring us some eye candy. Oh, and Happy Birthday there, Skybird. __________________ sent from my fingertips using a cheap keyboard

02-14-10, 02:11 PM	#10
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,500 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Thanks. I had a good day. Parents, a very close friend and her husband came for lunch - which was a Raclette. Great invention, this Raclette. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

02-14-10, 03:28 PM	#11
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Especially when you have to clean the pans of the dried cheese afterwards. Happy Birthday btw. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

07-26-10, 07:08 PM	#13
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,223 Downloads: 548 Uploads: 0	Who Cooked the Planet? By,PAUL KRUGMAN Why didn’t climate-change legislation get through the Senate? The triumph of greed and cowardice. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/26/op...ml?ref=opinion __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

07-26-10, 07:09 PM	#14
Lord_magerius Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Right by the hydrophone station Posts: 724 Downloads: 96 Uploads: 0	My bad... Turns oven down __________________

07-26-10, 07:20 PM	#15
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Nice article. I liked the part where they singled out a republican and implied that it was his fault that climate legislation didn't pass. Never mind the fact that Congress is (last I heard) under the democrats rule. Oh don't forget about the fact that both parties do this sort of thing. Bottom line, when both parties decide to quit playing point the finger I might start listening to what spews from their mouths. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.