US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Skybird

You are too trusting in written rules. And rules can be changed. If not legally, then by use of force, fraud, cheating, psychological manipulation, media control. Nothing of that is unheard of. And nothing of it is something Trump shies away from.

The written rules that you are talking about is the US Constitution. You seem to have an assumption that Trump can change that (he can't) and that if he tried everyone would just sit back and let him. In every single case that has been ruled against the Trump administration by the courts they have abided by those rulings. Which ones are you talking about? Use of force? It isn't Trump's supporters that are rioting in the streets. Cheating? It isn't the Trump administration that is interfering in the campaign of a political rival. That was the Obama administration. Media control? Who does CNN and the NYT shill for?

I think that you are venturing into the conspiracy theory land and you should know better.

He has explicitly said and confirmed that often enough. And his fans let him get away with it, and excuse him.

Quotes please if you would be so kind.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by u crank

The written rules that you are talking about is the US Constitution. You seem to have an assumption that Trump can change that (he can't) and that if he tried everyone would just sit back and let him. In every single case that has been ruled against the Trump administration by the courts they have abided by those rulings. Which ones are you talking about? Use of force? It isn't Trump's supporters that are rioting in the streets. Cheating? It isn't the Trump administration that is interfering in the campaign of a political rival. That was the Obama administration. Media control? Who does CNN and the NYT shill for?

I think that you are venturing into the conspiracy theory land and you should know better.



Quotes please if you would be so kind.

This question must be a running joke. Or you have no TV and news media.


No I am not so kind, because it would be dumb to do it ONCE AGAIN. I mean you jusr accused ME of conspiracy theory while Trump in the last 36 hours has reasoned about, once again, how great QAnon is.



You lead it ad absurdum. In best Trumpian style.



Liberty dies with thunderous applaus. Tyrants mostly creep in by pretending to be "legal" in their ways. And its always happening for the good and just cause.



History is full of this pattern.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Skybird

This question must be a running joke. Or you have no TV and news media.

So no quotes? And I am not talking about his jokingly saying he should get a third term. Perhaps you mean this ..

"We are going to win four more years," Trump said at a rally in Oshkosh, Wisconsin on Monday. "And then after that, we'll go for another four years because they spied on my campaign. We should get a redo of four years."

That was clearly a joke meant to get people like you and Chris Cillizza in a TDS tizzy. Apparently it worked.

I mean you jusr accused ME of conspiracy theory while Trump in the last 36 hours has reasoned about, once again, how great QAnon is.

Well Skybird that's Trump not me. You seem confused. I don't believe in conspiracy theories, I try to debunk them. It may come as a surprise to you but I am not a big fan of Donald Trump. I don't care for him so you should not confuse my debunking some of the ridiculous things you say with defending him. What I care about is getting the facts straight and not letting political bias get in the way of that.

Let me assure you once again that Donald Trump nor anyone else will not get a third term in office. I hope you will sleep better knowing that.

This may help.

"No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once."

The 22nd Amendment to the Constitution

[Mr Quatro]

You are too easy to spin up Sky

You are going to bust a gut if you keep up your tirade against President Trump

What about the nation we live in and it's perceptions of the direction the country would go if Biden/Harris should win in November?

They deserve more attention than how bad you perceive our present elected leader to be.

That's all I'm going to say about your one way mind

[Buddahaid]

Why does everyone assume the elected party will just change everything? What change happens is almost a miracle these days. Biden will be just as hog tied as Trump has been and there will be little real change, and what change there is, will be the result how the nation votes. It's always too bad if you don't like it but that's how the system works.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by u crank

It may come as a surprise to you but I am not a big fan of Donald Trump. I don't care for him so you should not confuse my debunking some of the ridiculous things you say with defending him. What I care about is getting the facts straight and not letting political bias get in the way of that.

You keep saying this. It doesn't make it true. Sorry.

[em2nought]

Damn, I wonder how many bottles of Prevagen they poured down Biden's throat prior to that speech? Can somebody O.D. on Prevagen?

[Gerald]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ge%2Fstory-ans
Former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon was charged Aug. 20 with defrauding donors to an online fundraising campaign to build a border wall. (Zach Purser Brown/The Washington Post)

Federal prosecutors in New York unsealed criminal charges Thursday against Stephen K. Bannon, President Trump’s former chief strategist, and three other men they alleged defrauded donors to a massive crowdfunding campaign that claimed to be raising money for construction of a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.

In a 23-page indictment, prosecutors said Bannon and another organizer, Air Force veteran Brian Kolfage, lied when they claimed they would not take any compensation as part of the campaign, called “We Build the Wall.” Bannon, prosecutors alleged, received more than $1 million through a nonprofit entity he controlled, sending hundreds of thousands of dollars to Kolfage while keeping a “substantial portion” for himself.

Problematic time for DT?

[Skybird]

The problem I have with some people is that they mastercopy Trump himself. Somethign I or others complain about has been reprted severla times. It was repeated behaviour by Trump. Rpoorted, logged and proven int he media. And then sombody strolls along and rejects that it happened, or acts as if it neve rhappened and demands evertyhig ebring rushe dback to the starting line: "Prove it. Quote it. Run in endless circles. Jump through the ring when i hold it up." And then you do it, and you may even repeatedly do it over the weeks and months. And nxt time the other once again acts as if none of that was ever said,m was ever done, and he insists that it is a brandnew and must be dmeocstrated and quoted and supported once again. An endless battle for futility. Reality-denial, reality-rewriting. Maybe you once again spend the time to recollect quotes and events and reprts, and link them once again. The reaction will be the same just a short timemalter: it never happened. "Repeat please. "hat have you said? Could you prove that, i hear that for the ist time!? You mean his claims a consporiation theory?, No , YOU are claiming conspiration theory! You mean he doe snto care for the laws? No, YOU do not know the laws. "

Pure destruction of means of communication. Reality gets denied, and replaced with a fabricated construction.


Nervtötend.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Dowly

You keep saying this. It doesn't make it true. Sorry.

Sorry. What makes it true or not is some evidence. Do you have any?

[Skybird]

Ah. Somebody has run out things he then can ignore again...

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by u crank

Sorry. What makes it true or not is some evidence. Do you have any?

Sure.


On the previous page, in post #10205 you say (about Kamala Harris):
"Her shinning moment in the Democrat primary was accusing Joe Biden of being a racist."


It took me under five minutes to check the validity of that and surprise surprise, she never accused Biden of being a racist.


Here's a clip of the debate in question:



This but one of the many times you've shown how "unbiased" you are in finding your facts. To the point that I am starting to suspect you are here for no other reason than to troll. You sure act like one these days.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Skybird

The problem I have with some people is that they mastercopy Trump himself.

Originally Posted by Skybird

Ah. Somebody has run out things he then can ignore again...

Skybird you should look in a mirror. Over and over you say things that are simply inaccurate. When those things are challenged your answer is the above statements rather than a factual argument? When I read some of the things you say it is obvious that you are not in any way knowledgable about US politics. I never make comments in the German, UK or Russian politics threads because I don't know anything about them. I don't consider myself an expert on US politics but have had more than just a casual interest since the Watergate hearings. What I would suggest is that before you say something like "Why haven't they made Harris main candidate and then somebody else her vice?" you should look into the process and what actually happened to Harris. She was a total failure as a candidate. That's why.

The very idea that Trump will somehow get a third term is a leftwing conspiracy dream meant to cause paranoia and fear in the minds of people who don't have knowledge. It is not based on any facts or the ability to accomplish it. If you are going to post about it expect to be challenged and asked to prove it.

[August]

Originally Posted by Gerald

Problematic time for DT?

Why? Because you hope so?

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by August

Why? Because you hope so?

Why would I hope so? If you "believe it" then you have a wrong idea about me. Note that my thread was objective ... but the person has a connection to DT!