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06-18-10, 01:35 PM | #31 | ||
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06-18-10, 06:10 PM | #32 |
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???????? I'm very confused as to how it works too. The AI-hostile-classification thing is a problem, but I have absolutely no idea how feeding it course/speed/range data helps. It'll give the AI a perfect solution, but still won't tell it what the target is. I'm also not convinced the AI won't fire on a contact that is not 100% classified. Even when I have a couple frequency lines, I still often have a number of choices in narrowband and just have to guess which one is the most likely. I've definately been fired on by subs I don't have a 100% classification on.
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Making a good (means realistic!) modern submarine simulation is an unfriendly task! Let's take a look at DW mods: I improved only one small aspect of entire stuff i.e. PSL levels of submarines to be able to achieve something what is close to early XXI century's reality. After doing that many mad as a cut snake Russkie fanboys, US fanboys and DW fanboys at large appeared questioning my work. I fully understand them all:
- I understand that Russkies still cannot agree with sad truth Russia is not a superpower any longer but only Third World backward country which desperately needs foreign help to remain afloat. I know this is all in a huge contrast to already reestablished comic Red Square Parades, funny military maneuvers in Venezuela and other fancy BS which are served by cunning Kremlin-boys to the Russkie public. Well, what else can they do? They cannot simply say the poor truth about Russkie military downfall to the nation in Moscow TV... - I also understand US fanboys who cannot take into consideration China is making a huge progress in naval technology and warfare outrunning old America's rival - now flat Russia. Yet they should understand in two decades US will face another Yellow Gorshkov. - I also fully understand DW fanboys because they need some fictionally upgraded Russkie stuff being still present in the game to save some game balance like winnable fight: Akula II versus Seawolf. Nope, buddies - this is not real! However no fantasy modding can change present reality and I am interested only in real life simulations. That is why I am modding mods to my personal realistic taste! Last edited by Gorshkov; 07-06-10 at 07:53 PM. |
07-06-10, 03:03 PM | #36 |
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Am I the US fanboy that thinks China sucks? Because I did the specs for the 054A, 053C, 022, etc...and China got pretty awesome in 3.10, if you'd care to look beyond the PSL of the 093 SSN. (And all we did with the 093 is put it where it was on the ONI chart--slightly louder than the Vic III.) We've taken the PLAN from a joke to brush aside to being a serious opponent.
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Not to mention the new torpedoes and missiles. |
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07-06-10, 03:27 PM | #38 |
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Good point. The change to the Yu-7 from...what was the standard ASW torp before? the A244?... was huge. The YJ-83 upgrade from the HY-2 and old version of the C-802, also huge. Yu-6 from -65K/TESTs as the primary torp of the sub fleet is also a pretty big deal. Air-to-surface going from the C801 to the Kh-31. Area AAW from non-existant to the HQ-9. Point defense from non-functional 37mms to working 37mms, AK-630s and Goalkeeper CIWS copies; ESSM SAMs to the HQ-7 and HQ-16. Okay, losing the ESSM was a downgrade, but China never had ESSMs to begin with (SCS just decided it was "close enough" to the HQ-7 and HQ-61 systems and went with it).
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07-06-10, 07:38 PM | #39 |
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Well, guys - the truth about DW is simple: This is tactical ASW simulator used by US Navy adepts for training. However it was sold as an entertainment game with completely falsified USNII database and simplified Nav-Sim Engine which is fully understandable move of course.
What you are trying to achieve is to recreate this real database and improve game mechanics using open sources. I think this task is not satisfying now because you treat this data too narrowly and too directly but they are in fact highly messed and mixed-up - often intentionally! However I think some level of improvement is possible and thus I tried to show you on PSL values example how to do that - in my opinion - correctly. Well, this requires quite a sheer knowledge compiled from many dispersed and often unconnected with submarine warfare sources along with proper summarization of many factors to get some clear picture what is going on underwater now. Yet it is doable so try, try and try...I won't be bothering you since then. I will be only watching your progress... Last edited by Gorshkov; 07-06-10 at 07:55 PM. |
07-06-10, 08:04 PM | #40 |
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Our main problem with what you have been saying is your lack of evidence to back what you are saying. We have produced charts available to anyone showing were we got the data for our PSLs.
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You know as is done PSL in DW? You have not ripened for it ! You only speak - I think, about suspect.. (etc, etc...) Give the facts. Differently you ---> Mr. bla-bla-bla |
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07-08-10, 08:09 AM | #43 |
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07-08-10, 11:05 PM | #44 |
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