Journey's End for The Grey Wolves Mod Team

[superstan]

Thanks for your great work and efforts over all the years

[xero.luck]

I'm way late, but wanted to say a big Thanks for everything!

[orengreen]

It is never too late to say another big "Thank You" for the GWX team.
Your work will continue to be appreciated by many and for a long long time!

[Leon1980]

Please come back dear GWX!

[dwassllir]

Thanks GWX team for enhancing my gaming experience. You guys rock!

[SilentHunts]

Thank you so much guys at GWX! You guys were the best and will always be the best! You made me smile when I shot that Medium Cargo as it put a smile on my face when it sank rather than normal SH3. I hope you guys have a successful journey on your ways across the Atlantic! Goodbye GWX! Never forget!

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by SilentHunts

Thank you so much guys at GWX! You guys were the best and will always be the best! You made me smile when I shot that Medium Cargo as it put a smile on my face when it sank rather than normal SH3. I hope you guys have a successful journey on your ways across the Atlantic! Goodbye GWX! Never forget!

Fair winds and following seas Kaleun

[Admiral Halsey]

You know I've wanted to know something. If you knew how bad SH5 would be(at first as since then mods make it playable finally) would you guys still have split up or would you have finished the GWX4 project?

[Knipper]

I've just reloaded SHIII after an absence of three years and which mods did I load? GWX of course. I haven't bothered looking at the rest (despite having a hardly-used copy of SH5 and acknowledging the talent that's in this forum) because I know it could never get better than what the GWX guys turned this sim into. Thank you guys. SINK 'EM ALL!

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Knipper

I've just reloaded SHIII after an absence of three years and which mods did I load? GWX of course. I haven't bothered looking at the rest (despite having a hardly-used copy of SH5 and acknowledging the talent that's in this forum) because I know it could never get better than what the GWX guys turned this sim into. Thank you guys. SINK 'EM ALL!

High praise indeed and much appreciated

Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey

You know I've wanted to know something. If you knew how bad SH5 would be(at first as since then mods make it playable finally) would you guys still have split up or would you have finished the GWX4 project?

A good question and not one easily answered but on a personal note I remember talking to my friend Dan Dimitrescu (Ubisoft SH5 Dev) at Neals house during the SubSim Meet in 2008 and whilst he was limited in what he could discuss I don't believe anyone was prepared for what state the game would be in at time of release.

That is not meant as a slur toward Dan or any of his colleagues because we all know 'he who pays the piper calls the tune' and that is what I believed happened where Ubisoft was concerned. I'm confident Dan would and could have produced something far better had they been given the time and the resources.

One or two of the Grey Wolves were about to leave for personal reasons (unbeknown to the rest of the team at the time) and once that happened and upon seeing SH5 released in the state it was in I doubt the GWX4 project would have been taken forward.

Personally speaking, I was disappointed at what the community were served and wish we could have stayed together as a team and taken the game forward but I remain conscious of the fact that Ubisoft were gracious enough not to object to the work of the team, some might say because it helped sales of the original release which was obviously needed in order to get the mod to work.

All the above is my personal viewpoint/opinion.

[Rockin Robbins]

Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

My friends,

(This is going to hurt.)

Apologies for making a new thread for this post... but I think you'll understand after you've read it.

After days of agonizing over the GWX-related discussion/tasks at hand for this weekend... it is clear to me that there is really only one choice left to us.

In the light of Ubisoft's SH5 preview announcement and impending release... and given the now-reduced manpower available to the GWX dev team...

...we are clearly no longer capable of executing our mission to develop GWX4. Even if we were able to do so, many of the objectives we intended to execute, (as stated on our website and elsewhere) would likely be mirrored only a short time later with the release of SH5... rendering our work obsolete. Just as we've done our dead-level-best to impliment things most sought after by the community... it is clear that the Silent Hunter Devs have been listening to you. This is a good thing guys. It is rather logical that parallel courses were eventually steered into in many ways...

The terrible thing about this post is the absolute assurance that the Ubi devs were listening and would deliver what the community wanted. And how utterly they failed to do anything of the sort. I'd love to see a chart of objectives planned by GWX4 and how many of them were implemented in SH5. Maybe it would just make me cry about how thoroughly we were let down. The GWX team did the right thing for reasons that turned out to be totally false. And that reflects on Ubi, not the GWX team.

It is clear now that SH3 and SH4 were as good as it was going to get. And they are darned good, in spite of their problems. Thanks to the Grey Wolves. You made SH3 shine.

[olddriedseaweed]

Wanted to express my thanks to all involved in GWX3. Like others, I have been playing this mod for years and just wanted to say thanks.

[Noobicum4Ever]

After 10 years there are still people who discover GWX and are impressed by the quality of this supermod.

[Jimbuna]

And rightly so

Enjoy the GWXperience

[TheGreatElector]

For mods, this is by far one of the best mods out there in general!Just looking back at this thread brings back good memories.