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01-05-23, 11:57 PM | #4936 |
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Either that we get more of this
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01-06-23, 12:08 AM | #4937 |
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01-06-23, 01:07 AM | #4938 |
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Does anyone have any idea what the Freedom Caucus wants? They can't get anywhere close to offering an alternative to McCarthy and yet they won't accept him so no speaker.
One view I've encountered is they are just jockeying for power in the vacuum left by Trump's departure leaving them with nobody to back, not having any policy to fall back on, and hoping to maneuver themselves into more senior roles come 2024.
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I don't think they have any idea about what they want themselves, and certainly not anything they agree on. They oppose, they are against it because "being against something" is basically everything they are capable of. Producing chaos is much simpler than producing order. If they wanted something productive, a true goal to achieve, they'd have to put thoughts and consideration into it, they'd have to convice others, and that would drive away the simple minds that voted for them. |
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Took me 30 seconds to find this via Google. https://perry.house.gov/uploadedfile..._7.25.2022.pdf
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01-06-23, 06:52 AM | #4943 |
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"What have we become as a political party when 20 people can rule 200 others against their will. Certainly not conservative."
https://twitter.com/SenKevinCramer/s...C-9YqO0NosAAAA Now, repeat that slowly in your head. |
01-06-23, 07:20 AM | #4944 |
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That would be an acceptable answer if yesterday hadn't happened. McCarthy basically conceded everything the Freedom Caucus demanded from him, and still they didn't vote for him. |
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01-06-23, 08:35 AM | #4946 |
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Hmm, here's a thought. Did it ever occur to you that they don't want Kevin McCarthy as speaker? And that their demands are a way of getting him to drop out of the race? It seems pretty obvious to me and considering the fact that they are on record saying just that seems to back up that idea.
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Who do they want instead? If they had a clear idea about this they would have voted for the same person in every round, but they haven't. They oppose McCarthy for the sake of opposition. In other words: there's a difference between "we don't want Kevin" and "we want XY, not Kevin". |
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01-06-23, 09:12 AM | #4948 | |
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01-06-23, 09:40 AM | #4950 | |
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Maybe you think that letting legislators actually read a bill (especially 1.7 trillion dollar ones) before they are required to vote on it is undemocratic or something?
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