UK Politics Thread

[Jimbuna]

Pales into insignificance.

[Skybird]

LINK

[Skybird]

10 points explaining the mess that it is.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49008826


Personally I think the British membership in the EU always has been a big misunderstanding, and the self-understanding of the EU as this ominous European project going beyond a free market always was a megalomaniac erring of the masses, and a selfish hobby of the self-proclaimed elites trying to provide themselves bigger, shinier, higher thrones.

[Jimbuna]

Jo Swinson or Sir Ed Davey will be named as the next leader of the Liberal Democrats later, replacing incumbent Sir Vince Cable.

The result of the pro-EU party's leadership contest is expected at around 16:00 BST on Monday.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49068552

One can hardly contain the excitement

[Jimbuna]

Jo Swinson wins Lib Dem leadership contest

[MGR1]

Scottish MP representing a Scottish constituency as leader of a UK wide party?


West Lothian Question anyone?


Mike.

[Jimbuna]

I sometimes ask that question of myself and well remember Tam Dalyell.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Jo Swinson wins Lib Dem leadership contest

Another one promising the world and will deliver nothing.

[MGR1]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I sometimes ask that question of myself and well remember Tam Dalyell.

Very true - he did believe that once devolution was enacted it was highly likely Scotland would eventually become independent.

The only possible way around the problem would be devolution and a separate Parliament for England, but so far the people of England don't appear to want the extra layer of politicians that and a fully federal UK would entail. The latter is something the Lib Dems support, BTW.

I am going to be slightly pithy and write that Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have that additional set of politicos (we voted for them), so why shouldn't England? If English people don't want non-English MP's voting on English only matters then there are only two real alternatives - that extra layer of politicians, or start voting for the English Democrats and independence from the UK.

There is a third - scrap devolution and go back to the status quo ante 1997, but how badly do people want to send troops onto the streets of Northern Ireland (again) and the Clyde Valley (the most likely trouble spot in Scotland)?

Mike.

[Jimbuna]

Theresa May pushes ahead with milkshakes tax plan as one of her last acts as Prime Minister even though her likely successor Boris Johnson has vowed to scrap it.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...id=mailsignout

You simply couldn't make this up

Politicians, those that keep on giving

[Jimbuna]

New UK prime minister: Johnson and Hunt await Conservative leadership vote.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49078864

We will know in a little under two hours

[Skybird]

Happy condolences. He is the best since there is nobody worse.


[minute of silence to let this sink in]

[ikalugin]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Happy condolences. He is the best since there is nobody worse.


[minute of silence to let this sink in]

I am not sure if you worded this right


Immagine Farrage or Corbyn being the PM. The sweet sweet tears.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Happy condolences. He is the best since there is nobody worse.


[minute of silence to let this sink in]

At 11am GMT I took the dog to his bi-monthly grooming parlour and after dropping him off I went to a bookmakers a few shops away and asked what the odds were on Hunt and Johnson to be told Hunt was 5/6 and no more bets would be taken on Johnson.

The bookmaker is seldom wrong.

[MGR1]

Boris as PM? This will be interesting.....

Could Prime Minister Boris Johnson break up the UK?

Will Brexit break Britain, and would England care?

The latter highlights the dichotomy of the Unionist position in both Northern Ireland and Scotland - they support something which an increasing number of English people don't.

Though it could be argued that Unionism is inherently undemocratic as it's based on the idea that preserving the Union is more important than the democratic will of the people(s) of the UK.

Mike.