Wuhan virus 2020 - Page 10

Onkel Neal · 02-01-20, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I've no idea Jeff, I wasn't around then but I'll ask Ann

At least we know it won't be Kung Flu that kills you, Jim

mapuc · 02-01-20, 01:19 PM

I get the feeling by hearing, reading the officials news stream

That this Corona virus is in a way intelligent

Markus

Mr Quatro · 02-01-20, 01:45 PM

A few new facts:

More than half of China extends shutdown over virus

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/01/coro...nt-of-gdp.html

At least 21 provinces, municipalities and regions in China have told businesses not to resume work before Feb. 10 at the earliest.

The Lunar New Year holiday was initially set to run from Jan. 24 to Jan. 30, with work resuming on Jan. 31. Nationwide, the Chinese government has extended the holiday so that businesses would not reopen until Monday, Feb. 3

Hubei, where the disease is concentrated, has told businesses not to reopen until at least Feb. 14

Tianjin: Businesses and schools are not to reopen until further notice.

In most regions, businesses involved with public utilities, supermarkets or other essential industries are to remain open.

Catfish · 02-01-20, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

I get the feeling by hearing, reading the officials news stream
That this Corona virus is in a way intelligent Markus

I'd rather say it is tailored for certain targets.
I still wonder if it is an overreaction or if it really is that dangerous

Jeff-Groves · 02-01-20, 05:00 PM

Onkel Neal · 02-01-20, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

I'd rather say it is tailored for certain targets.
I still wonder if it is an overreaction or if it really is that dangerous

Hard to say, but we will find out. Let's hope these containment measures, while certain to trigger some segments of our population, are effective the spread levels off.

Had to laugh at this:

Facemasks optional, Scientists doubt their effectiveness

Yet, everyone in the medical field and affected areas are wearing them.

Skybird · 02-01-20, 05:36 PM

Neal,

these face masks they talk of, are not for no reason called "surgeon masks". They are not meant to protect the wearer from infection, but they are meant for him not infecting others. The surgeon should not breath into the open wounds of his "victim", and a patient being infectous should not sneeze into the face of his nurse. No infection by mopisture drops or mouth and nose moisture being sneezed or breathed out.

Thats why I recommended the kind of masks that I described on earlier pages. These DO protect the person wearing them, but only if using filters of the FFP3 norm, which may be labelled differently in the US. These filters are not just coffee filters

, but are woven by nano-filament.

The mask frame with silicon rim may cost around 20-30 coins, a filter 5-10 coins. If you have a beard, shave it off, else the mask is insufficently sealed. Men shoud always shave before exposing themselves to a ciontaminated environment where they must wear such half-masks, as they are claled in German. If you do not want that, choose full face-covering masks.

But that is exaggerated for this virus, I think. While the infection potential of this virus is extremely high, it lethaölity is not, SARS was wors,e and the oridnary seasonal flu causes more deaths every season. Many infected people do not form symptoms that seriously takes them out of action.

The simple paper masks have their purpose. But most people who feel afraid simply do not know how to use them correctly and in what way to correctly handle them, technicallyy, so that these masks would do what they should. Wrong purpose and bad handling. No good combination, and thus: almost pointless indeed.

Jeff-Groves · 02-01-20, 05:58 PM

And everyone was afraid of a Zombie Virus!

Onkel Neal · 02-01-20, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

Neal,

these face masks they talk of, are not for no reason called "surgeon masks". They are not meant to protect the wearer from infection, but they are meant for him not infecting others. The surgeon should not breath into the open wounds of his "victim", and a patient being infectous should not sneeze into the face of his nurse. No infection by mopisture drops or mouth and nose moisture being sneezed or breathed out.

.

Yeah, so? It works in one direction?

Rockstar · 02-01-20, 07:06 PM

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...183-5/fulltext

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Coronaviruses are enveloped non-segmented positive-sense RNA viruses belonging to the family Coronaviridae and the order Nidovirales and broadly distributed in humans and other mammals. Although most human coronavirus infections are mild, the epidemics of the two betacoronaviruses, severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV) and Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV),have caused more than 10 000 cumulative cases in the past two decades, with mortality rates of 10% for SARS-CoV and 37% for MERS-CoV.

The coronaviruses already identified might only be the tip of the iceberg, with potentially more novel and severe zoonotic events to be revealed.

SO I guess what they're trying too say is, one day quite possibly in our future the feces is going to hit the rotating oscillator.

Rockstar · 02-01-20, 07:29 PM

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...re-for-selloff

China Vows Financial Stability With Markets Bracing for Selloff
Bloomberg News February 1, 2020, 4:01 AM EST Updated on February 1, 2020, 4:45 AM EST

Onkel Neal · 02-02-20, 12:28 AM

"We're coming to give you your flu shot, comrades"
https://twitter.com/i/status/1223777826970562560

Edit: JANUARY 30, 2020 / 2:21 AM / 3 DAYS AGO
Philippines confirms first case of new coronavirus: health minister

Coronavirus: Philippines reports first death outside China
Published: 9:51am, 2 Feb, 2020

Jimbuna · 02-02-20, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

At least we know it won't be Kung Flu that kills you, Jim

I doubt the virus could survive the cold environment we 'enjoy' up north

Mr Quatro · 02-02-20, 07:30 AM

This is not a small hospital, uh?

Read the article for more updates about the death toll true, but also about the new Bird flu and the swine flu already in progress now will cause a food problem in China

China builds a coronavirus hospital within 10 days

The Chinese government has delivered on its promise to build a hospital for coronavirus patients at the epicenter of the outbreak within 10 days. About 1,400 military medics will begin working at the hospital on Monday, according to state news media.

Mr Quatro · 02-02-20, 07:51 AM

Here's a man from Hong Kong in the article above that only spent a few hours in mainland China and then went on a cruise in Japan with 3,000 other passengers. I wonder if they had any contact with him?

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Hong Kong confirmed its 14th coronavirus case late Saturday. The patient, an 80-year-old man, had traveled for a few hours to mainland China in early January, and later spent several days on a cruise ship in Japan with more than 3,000 passengers and employees.

This could get out of hand in a hurry if true due to the disease can be passed on by people that have no symptoms.

The lady in Chicago that flew home from China had no symptoms yet her and her husband came down with the virus.

One man in Indonesia came down with the virus .. guess what his job was? A taxi driver, duh?

02-01-20, 01:45 PM	#138
Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	A few new facts: More than half of China extends shutdown over virus https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/01/coro...nt-of-gdp.html At least 21 provinces, municipalities and regions in China have told businesses not to resume work before Feb. 10 at the earliest. The Lunar New Year holiday was initially set to run from Jan. 24 to Jan. 30, with work resuming on Jan. 31. Nationwide, the Chinese government has extended the holiday so that businesses would not reopen until Monday, Feb. 3 Hubei, where the disease is concentrated, has told businesses not to reopen until at least Feb. 14 Tianjin: Businesses and schools are not to reopen until further notice. In most regions, businesses involved with public utilities, supermarkets or other essential industries are to remain open. __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..

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Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,321 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	__________________ I don't do Stupid. So don't ask.

02-01-20, 05:36 PM	#142
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,553 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Neal, these face masks they talk of, are not for no reason called "surgeon masks". They are not meant to protect the wearer from infection, but they are meant for him not infecting others. The surgeon should not breath into the open wounds of his "victim", and a patient being infectous should not sneeze into the face of his nurse. No infection by mopisture drops or mouth and nose moisture being sneezed or breathed out. Thats why I recommended the kind of masks that I described on earlier pages. These DO protect the person wearing them, but only if using filters of the FFP3 norm, which may be labelled differently in the US. These filters are not just coffee filters , but are woven by nano-filament. The mask frame with silicon rim may cost around 20-30 coins, a filter 5-10 coins. If you have a beard, shave it off, else the mask is insufficently sealed. Men shoud always shave before exposing themselves to a ciontaminated environment where they must wear such half-masks, as they are claled in German. If you do not want that, choose full face-covering masks. But that is exaggerated for this virus, I think. While the infection potential of this virus is extremely high, it lethaölity is not, SARS was wors,e and the oridnary seasonal flu causes more deaths every season. Many infected people do not form symptoms that seriously takes them out of action. The simple paper masks have their purpose. But most people who feel afraid simply do not know how to use them correctly and in what way to correctly handle them, technicallyy, so that these masks would do what they should. Wrong purpose and bad handling. No good combination, and thus: almost pointless indeed. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

02-01-20, 05:58 PM	#143
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,321 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	And everyone was afraid of a Zombie Virus! __________________ I don't do Stupid. So don't ask.

02-01-20, 07:29 PM	#146
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,871 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...re-for-selloff China Vows Financial Stability With Markets Bracing for Selloff Bloomberg News February 1, 2020, 4:01 AM EST Updated on February 1, 2020, 4:45 AM EST __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.

02-01-20, 01:19 PM	#137
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,943 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I get the feeling by hearing, reading the officials news stream That this Corona virus is in a way intelligent Markus

02-02-20, 12:28 AM	#147
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,289 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	"We're coming to give you your flu shot, comrades" https://twitter.com/i/status/1223777826970562560 Edit: JANUARY 30, 2020 / 2:21 AM / 3 DAYS AGO Philippines confirms first case of new coronavirus: health minister Coronavirus: Philippines reports first death outside China Published: 9:51am, 2 Feb, 2020 Last edited by Onkel Neal; 02-02-20 at 01:07 AM. Reason: added link

02-02-20, 07:30 AM	#149
Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This is not a small hospital, uh? Read the article for more updates about the death toll true, but also about the new Bird flu and the swine flu already in progress now will cause a food problem in China China builds a coronavirus hospital within 10 days The Chinese government has delivered on its promise to build a hospital for coronavirus patients at the epicenter of the outbreak within 10 days. About 1,400 military medics will begin working at the hospital on Monday, according to state news media. __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..