The CHN/ China thread - Page 14

August · 01-25-22, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

China must see a tempting opportunity here:

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/24/p...sea/index.html

German media report two US carrier groups and a Japanese helcopter carrier "stay nearby", but China has some tools avalable, too, nanmely undersea robots and drones. It is to be hoped that they know precisely where the plane hit the sea bottom, so that they can guard the location against too pesky Chinese.

Put away your glee, the jet crash landed on deck.

Skybird · 01-25-22, 02:48 PM

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/navy...ry?id=82447562

The navy originally had been silent or evasive on whether the plane wreck was under control or not, but the news by ABC now quoting a spokesman seems to indicate that the plane indeed has fallen off the carrier. It remains unclear whether the plane then floated on the sea, or went into a dive. Considering that it was struck by technical mishap during landing and so the fuel tanks might have been empty and instead filled with air, I would assume as a layman that chances were that it floated, not went down.

Jimbuna · 01-25-22, 02:54 PM

Good to learn there were no fatalities.

Skybird · 01-25-22, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Good to learn there were no fatalities.

No doubt, but - without wanting to be cold or cyncial: far more relevant is that the Chinese do not get even more access to the technology of the plane. That's logic not of a civil society at peace, but of an army operating by the logic of war, sorry.

Catfish · 01-26-22, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by August

[...], the jet crash landed on deck.

“I can confirm the aircraft impacted the flight deck during landing and subsequently fell to the water” said Lieutenant Nicholas Lingo, spokesperson for the US Seventh Fleet.

“The US Navy is making recovery operations arrangements for the F-35C aircraft.”

https://www.dw.com/en/us-navy-tries-...sea/a-60554096

Skybird · 01-26-22, 09:22 AM

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/25/a...-ml/index.html

The deepest abyss in the South Chinese Sea is 5500+ m, the average depth of the area is 1200+ m.

Skybird · 01-27-22, 02:27 PM

The Chinese are slobbering. The race is on. The stakes are high.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60148482

Quote:

"If they can get into the 35's networking capabilities, it effectively undermines the whole carrier philosophy."

I have another theory. The plane got bugged with wrong data, and it was intentionally thrown over board so that the Chinese will find it. After a hot race, of course.

Skybird · 01-28-22, 09:47 AM

China plays the innocent lamb and says it had no interest in that American warplane. Yeah, sure. And I am not intertested in pizza all of a sudden.

Meanwhile on social media a photo is ciruclating. Its a good sign, imo, becasue oit shows the plane is in pjne piece and thus should be easier to be detected on the ground of the sea. It is said in media that the recovery ships will notr arrive before the emergency singal/blackbox singal form the plane will die, so beign able to fix its position before or detect5 it afetr those batteries die, seems to be quite important.

I would also assume that the position of the floating wreck has been painstakingly precisely marked on the map. On the way down to the bottom it may have however glided away from that marking.

Skybird · 01-30-22, 02:01 PM

Lithuania versus China.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/30/e...cmd/index.html

Jimbuna · 01-30-22, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Lithuania versus China.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/30/e...cmd/index.html

Good luck with that.

Catfish · 01-30-22, 02:24 PM

re Lithuania:
If only some would follow .. it was a move in the right direction.

Jimbuna · 01-30-22, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

re Lithuania:
If only some would follow .. it was a move in the right direction.

Precisely!

mapuc · 01-30-22, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Good luck with that.

It made me remember the movie The Mouse that roared.

Markus

Reece · 01-30-22, 10:18 PM

or the series "Goliath". (should have been X-rated imo)

ET2SN · 02-01-22, 04:44 PM

A little long winded but a good discussion about the F-35 crash.

Keep in mind, its very early to start speculating but these guys know their beans.

Possible trouble with Aviators becoming too dependent on jets that can fly themselves.

The gist of this is the pilots always using the software to land the jet, then the CO starts cracking down on shooting some manual approaches and the parts start to fly off the carrier deck.
In other words, the auto pilot is that good.

01-25-22, 02:48 PM	#197
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,493 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/navy...ry?id=82447562 The navy originally had been silent or evasive on whether the plane wreck was under control or not, but the news by ABC now quoting a spokesman seems to indicate that the plane indeed has fallen off the carrier. It remains unclear whether the plane then floated on the sea, or went into a dive. Considering that it was struck by technical mishap during landing and so the fuel tanks might have been empty and instead filled with air, I would assume as a layman that chances were that it floated, not went down. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-25-22, 02:54 PM	#198
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,175 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Good to learn there were no fatalities. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

01-26-22, 09:22 AM	#201
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,493 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/25/a...-ml/index.html The deepest abyss in the South Chinese Sea is 5500+ m, the average depth of the area is 1200+ m. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-28-22, 09:47 AM	#203
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,493 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	China plays the innocent lamb and says it had no interest in that American warplane. Yeah, sure. And I am not intertested in pizza all of a sudden. Meanwhile on social media a photo is ciruclating. Its a good sign, imo, becasue oit shows the plane is in pjne piece and thus should be easier to be detected on the ground of the sea. It is said in media that the recovery ships will notr arrive before the emergency singal/blackbox singal form the plane will die, so beign able to fix its position before or detect5 it afetr those batteries die, seems to be quite important. I would also assume that the position of the floating wreck has been painstakingly precisely marked on the map. On the way down to the bottom it may have however glided away from that marking. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-30-22, 02:01 PM	#204
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,493 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Lithuania versus China. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/30/e...cmd/index.html __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-30-22, 02:24 PM	#206
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	re Lithuania: If only some would follow .. it was a move in the right direction. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

01-30-22, 10:18 PM	#209
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 32,740 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	or the series "Goliath". (should have been X-rated imo) __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

02-01-22, 04:44 PM	#210
ET2SN ET2/SS Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 2,513 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	A little long winded but a good discussion about the F-35 crash. Keep in mind, its very early to start speculating but these guys know their beans. Possible trouble with Aviators becoming too dependent on jets that can fly themselves. The gist of this is the pilots always using the software to land the jet, then the CO starts cracking down on shooting some manual approaches and the parts start to fly off the carrier deck. In other words, the auto pilot is that good.