UK Politics Thread

[Jimbuna]

Former Conservative leadership candidate Rory Stewart is quitting as an MP to run for London mayor as an independent candidate.

The MP has also announced he has resigned from the Conservative Party.

Mr Stewart tweeted: "It's been a great privilege to serve Penrith and The Border for the last ten years."

He was expelled from the Conservatives in the Commons along with 20 other Brexit rebels, but remained a member of the party.

Writing for his local newspaper, the Cumberland and Westmorland Herald, he said: "As you will be aware, I am no longer allowed to run as Conservative MP in Penrith and The Border.

"Because I have loved the constituency so much, I had considered standing as an Independent; but I have decided that I wouldn't want to run against those Conservative members who have been such wonderful colleagues over the last 10 years." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49931937

No doubt some will say he is doing the honourable thing but the other twenty who had the whip taken away from them have to consider their positions in the next general election.

[Jimbuna]

A Scottish judge is being asked to consider whether Boris Johnson could be jailed if he takes the UK out of the EU without a deal.

A legal challenge is to be heard at the Court of Session about whether the prime minister could be forced to delay Brexit if no exit deal is agreed.

However, Mr Johnson has said he would rather be "dead in a ditch" than ask European leaders for another extension.

The court case seeks to establish what might happen if he refuses to act.

This could even include the court effectively signing a letter to European leaders on behalf of Mr Johnson, asking for a fresh extension.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-49924755

I'll say one thing, this is certainly rating very highly in the entertainment stakes

[JU_88]

This seems to be the new precedent in western politics,
'If I can't win though debate and democratic means, Ill just see if I can get my opponent dragged in front of a court and prosecuted for something, (even when the people are not calling for it)'.

If that doesn't scare you, it damn well should, no matter which side you're on.
the for the past 100 or so years, its never gotten this bad.

I fear the impact of no-deal will pale compared what would happen in the event of an over turned brexit from the top level (without a GE or 2nd ref). When half a nation loses faith in their ability to make changes though democratic means, the next step usually involves bricks and petrol bombs.
'No deal /crash out' at the end of this month is the 2nd worst possible outcome here.

[STEED]

Politics is being manipulated by the social media like some control freak and to make it worst politians are playing up to the camera look at me......

Is this a blip, I am not convinced in fact I think it's here to stay and will become more stupid and crass as time goes on.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by JU_88

This seems to be the new precedent in western politics,
'If I can't win though debate and democratic means, Ill just see if I can get my opponent dragged in front of a court and prosecuted for something, (even when the people are not calling for it)'.

If that doesn't scare you, it damn well should, no matter which side you're on.
the for the past 100 or so years, its never gotten this bad.

I fear the impact of no-deal will pale compared what would happen in the event of an over turned brexit from the top level (without a GE or 2nd ref). When half a nation loses faith in their ability to make changes though democratic means, the next step usually involves bricks and petrol bombs.
'No deal /crash out' at the end of this month is the 2nd worst possible outcome here.

Yep, certainly beginning to look that way

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by STEED

Politics is being manipulated by the social media like some control freak and to make it worst politians are playing up to the camera look at me......

Is this a blip, I am not convinced in fact I think it's here to stay and will become more stupid and crass as time goes on.

Well If it continues, it will have to come to head at some point. Both here and accross the pond. such a political climate is unsustainable long term.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by JU_88

Well If it continues, it will have to come to head at some point. Both here and accross the pond. such a political climate is unsustainable long term.

I don't think enough people are wide awake, most are sleepwalking or lapping it up on social media like trolls sniffing magic fairy dust.

Will it come to a head and people say enough of this I doubt it.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by STEED

I don't think enough people are wide awake, most are sleepwalking or lapping it up on social media like trolls sniffing magic fairy dust.

Will it come to a head and people say enough of this I doubt it.

Not everyone will be involved, it only takes a few to spark it off, and then more will join them.
I'm not predicting all out civil war, but something akin to the yellow vests would be more than likley.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by JU_88

Not everyone will be involved, it only takes a few to spark it off, and then more will join them.
I'm not predicting all out civil war, but something akin to the yellow vests would be more than likley.

No thanks, I did my two tours of duty and enjoy simple retirement life now.

[JU_88]

No thanks hear either, mass street violence is unsettling to say the least.

[Jimbuna]

If I'm to be totally honest though, the pay was good

[STEED]

In the short term we have to worry about hot heads and brexit is a UXB. Bad enough with the crack heads drop outs and the Friday night binge drinker's.

[Jimbuna]

Sounds to me like somebody is already living in an area of civil unrest

[Skybird]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49936352

Does the "magican" get "disenchanted" ?


If he asks for extension in Brussel, this might reduce Johnson's chances in early elections after end of Octobre dramatically, or not? Or will they forgive him the breaking of his core promise?

[Jimbuna]

Sending such a letter will have a negative effect on Tory election chances but nowhere near as much as the damage already done to Labour over the whole affair.

Farage will benefit though and he is more likely to support a Tory government.