[WIP] Conversion of AI Subs from SH5 to SH3 - Page 4

rowi58 · 10-24-10, 09:17 AM

Thanks to Plisken04,

he has updated his server. You can find "bigboywooly's" tutorial here:
ftp://maikhaas.dyndns.org/Volume_1/S...3%20TUTORIALS/

Greetings.
rowi58

Plissken_04 · 10-24-10, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowi58

Thanks to Plisken04,

he has updated his server. You can find "bigboywooly's" tutorial here:
ftp://maikhaas.dyndns.org/Volume_1/S...3%20TUTORIALS/

Greetings.
rowi58

Thanks for the link,Rowi

So Long

Maik

BUKER · 10-24-10, 02:55 PM

Hi rowi58,
Thanks for this mod.

Now I can not look at the submarine VIIB and VIIC!
They look much worse AI...

Museum...

rowi58 · 10-25-10, 11:13 AM

Hi folks,

i've uploaded a version 2 of the AI subs. I've corrected the front and back planes (model centered) and centered the propellers (only type VII A). The new version 2 is optional, if you want to see the planes working correctly - in the "museum".

D/L is here: http://www.mediafire.com/?que6hf47olzsl4c

Thanks to BUKER for the screenshot above. It shows the problem

.

Greetings
rowi58

polyfiller · 10-27-10, 05:27 AM

Rowi - not sure if this helps .... but in terms of getting AI subs to launch real AI torpedoe's, a couple of us working on SH4 TSWSM came up with a solution and actually ended up with some pretty devastating AI subs.

The method we used was to mount guns which used the launch torpedo effect to launch the munition. Because it as a gun it was mounted on the 3d model at a suitable height above the sub for the gun to be just above the water when the sub was submerged. The actually gun object was then made invisible.

Not sure if this approach would work with SH3 ... but if you want more detail, let me know.

SquareSteelBar · 10-27-10, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polyfiller

...Not sure if this approach would work with SH3...

Yes, it does.

Sergbuto did it that way years ago in his Wolfpack mod...

polyfiller · 10-27-10, 07:02 AM

Well in that case I can offer some guidance on the results of the testing we did for TSWSM and the approaches used to achieve maximum targetting effectiveness (this was the main issue we faced). We came up with a compromise which included some speed and mounting angle trickery, combined with a larger than normal torpedo loadout combined with a fairly agressive ROF. Still effective though. Managed to get two subs to easily take out a BB in about 10 minutes of action.

rowi58 · 10-27-10, 10:57 AM

Hi folks,

thanks to "Alex"

, who told me about a "little" problem with the damage texture of destroyed AI sub. This "BugFix" will add the two TGA files to your folder "data/Misc" the VAL files are calling for.

In the "ReadMe" you'll find some information about the guns the "NSS_Undine" calls for and what's to do if you want to "see" theese guns (depending on the "Super MOD" you are using).

This "BugFix can be d/l here:

http://www.mediafire.com/?f8aa6aut59pattb

NOTE: LSH3 V5 user do not need this BugFix!

Greetings
rowi58

sabretwo · 10-28-10, 07:22 PM

Rowi,

Very nice work. It looks great. Just one question...

Is there a way to have the U-class on surface? When I loaded it in Museum, it is submerged. Do you have a version that is on surface or is there some way I can change it in the campaign editor?

Thanks!

rowi58 · 10-28-10, 10:28 PM

Hi sabretwo,

that's a problem of all sub - the museum shows them allways submerged. If you want to see sub surfaced, you nust change the SingleMission "Museum.mis" (in folder data/Museum). But be carefull - there are other units close in who will fire upon subs. Perhaps change the nationality - all units of one nationality.

Greetings
rowi58

EDIT: no chance - subs will allways stay submerged

polyfiller · 10-29-10, 05:34 AM

So does anyone want input from me on getting the subs to fire torps ?

sabretwo · 10-29-10, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowi58

that's a problem of all sub - the museum shows them allways submerged. If you want to see sub surfaced, you nust change the SingleMission "Museum.mis" (in folder data/Museum).

So if I understand correctly, in campaign it will be on surface just like the other AI subs?

rowi58 · 10-29-10, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabretwo

So if I understand correctly, in campaign it will be on surface just like the other AI subs?

Yes, absolut correct. And in every single mission you script in this AI Uboat.

Greetings
rowi58

sabretwo · 10-29-10, 11:31 AM

Thanks!

makman94 · 10-30-10, 08:24 PM

@ Rowi58 ,

is there the possibility to make these subs playable ? i mean,...can this be done?

10-24-10, 09:17 AM	#46
rowi58 Eternal Patrol Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Karlsruhe Posts: 679 Downloads: 56 Uploads: 0	Thanks to Plisken04, he has updated his server. You can find "bigboywooly's" tutorial here: ftp://maikhaas.dyndns.org/Volume_1/S...3%20TUTORIALS/ Greetings. rowi58 __________________

10-24-10, 02:55 PM	#48
BUKER 中国水兵 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: RUSSIA-Siberia Posts: 274 Downloads: 401 Uploads: 0	Hi rowi58, Thanks for this mod. Now I can not look at the submarine VIIB and VIIC! They look much worse AI... Museum... __________________

10-25-10, 11:13 AM	#49
rowi58 Eternal Patrol Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Karlsruhe Posts: 679 Downloads: 56 Uploads: 0	Hi folks, i've uploaded a version 2 of the AI subs. I've corrected the front and back planes (model centered) and centered the propellers (only type VII A). The new version 2 is optional, if you want to see the planes working correctly - in the "museum". D/L is here: http://www.mediafire.com/?que6hf47olzsl4c Thanks to BUKER for the screenshot above. It shows the problem . Greetings rowi58 __________________

10-27-10, 10:57 AM	#53
rowi58 Eternal Patrol Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Karlsruhe Posts: 679 Downloads: 56 Uploads: 0	Hi folks, thanks to "Alex" , who told me about a "little" problem with the damage texture of destroyed AI sub. This "BugFix" will add the two TGA files to your folder "data/Misc" the VAL files are calling for. In the "ReadMe" you'll find some information about the guns the "NSS_Undine" calls for and what's to do if you want to "see" theese guns (depending on the "Super MOD" you are using). This "BugFix can be d/l here: http://www.mediafire.com/?f8aa6aut59pattb NOTE: LSH3 V5 user do not need this BugFix! Greetings rowi58 __________________

10-28-10, 10:28 PM	#55
rowi58 Eternal Patrol Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Karlsruhe Posts: 679 Downloads: 56 Uploads: 0	Hi sabretwo, that's a problem of all sub - the museum shows them allways submerged. If you want to see sub surfaced, you nust change the SingleMission "Museum.mis" (in folder data/Museum). But be carefull - there are other units close in who will fire upon subs. Perhaps change the nationality - all units of one nationality. Greetings rowi58 EDIT: no chance - subs will allways stay submerged __________________ Last edited by rowi58; 10-29-10 at 01:04 AM.

10-27-10, 05:27 AM	#50
polyfiller Weps Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 356 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Rowi - not sure if this helps .... but in terms of getting AI subs to launch real AI torpedoe's, a couple of us working on SH4 TSWSM came up with a solution and actually ended up with some pretty devastating AI subs. The method we used was to mount guns which used the launch torpedo effect to launch the munition. Because it as a gun it was mounted on the 3d model at a suitable height above the sub for the gun to be just above the water when the sub was submerged. The actually gun object was then made invisible. Not sure if this approach would work with SH3 ... but if you want more detail, let me know.

10-27-10, 07:02 AM	#52
polyfiller Weps Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 356 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Well in that case I can offer some guidance on the results of the testing we did for TSWSM and the approaches used to achieve maximum targetting effectiveness (this was the main issue we faced). We came up with a compromise which included some speed and mounting angle trickery, combined with a larger than normal torpedo loadout combined with a fairly agressive ROF. Still effective though. Managed to get two subs to easily take out a BB in about 10 minutes of action.

10-28-10, 07:22 PM	#54
sabretwo Frogman Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 295 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	Rowi, Very nice work. It looks great. Just one question... Is there a way to have the U-class on surface? When I loaded it in Museum, it is submerged. Do you have a version that is on surface or is there some way I can change it in the campaign editor? Thanks!

10-29-10, 05:34 AM	#56
polyfiller Weps Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 356 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	So does anyone want input from me on getting the subs to fire torps ?

10-29-10, 11:31 AM	#59
sabretwo Frogman Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 295 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	Thanks!

10-30-10, 08:24 PM	#60
makman94 Hellas Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,325 Downloads: 182 Uploads: 7	@ Rowi58 , is there the possibility to make these subs playable ? i mean,...can this be done? __________________ Knowledge is the only thing that nobody can ever take from you... Mediafire page:http://www.mediafire.com/folder/da50.../Makman94_Mods